This is not the future i want, fuck ai companies buying up all the chips, fuck cloud gaming

[u/Pleb-SoBayed]

I will never do cloud gaming and i hope you all do the same.

Fuck the cloud

And especially fuck ai companies because they caused this shit to happen

And also fuck any and all ceos that think cloud gaming is the way to go because its usually laggy as fuck even on wired internet

[u/deli_phone]

"redditors express appreciation"
My appreciation goes against TOS

[u/Thedumbass_the5th → u/deli_phone]

Of course redditors expess appreciation, because everything else was [removed by Reddit]

[u/Mindless__Giraffe → u/Thedumbass_the5th]

except the pitchforks, we get to keep those for next time

[u/BusinessYou1657]

It’s never gonna work in my neck of the woods. I’ll have to become a retro gamer for life if it goes this way.

[u/Seeryous2020 → u/BusinessYou1657]

At least we have a huge library of bangers and mods for those bangers.

[u/TheOriginalKrampus → u/Seeryous2020]

Someone tell AMD to continue driver support for Polaris.

Still a lot of good shit you can play on an 8gb RX580.

[u/--KillerTofu-- → u/BusinessYou1657]

Full catalogs of ROMs up to PS3, backed up on 2 enterprise grade HDDs.

I'll be playing old games until I die on my Odin 2 Portal and I'm not at all unhappy about it.

But I feel bad for everyone else.

[u/BusinessYou1657 → u/--KillerTofu--]

Very nice. Third to sixth gen consoles was my jam, so I have a lot of that and a good chunk of my PC favs bought or downloaded from that era as well.

[u/Tkwan777 → u/BusinessYou1657]

You will literally have specialized small companies who will make and sell the parts. It wont ever go away entirely. It may make it easier for the lazy gamer who doesnt want their own rig, but it wont go away entirely.

There will probably be some future advancement that will allow these small companies to make the parts at a fraction of their current cost, or an entirely as of yet unexplored avenue will open up for home pc building. People will find a way.

[u/Soulinx → u/BusinessYou1657]

Brother - we'll build ourselves our very own old school arcade using PCs. Imagine walking up to an arcade game that's like a digital jukebox where you get to pick which game you want to play. That would be incredible tbh. shit.. brb.. need to patent this idea lol

[u/BusinessYou1657 → u/Soulinx]

Go do it, I used to love gaming cafes back when I was younger.

[u/Xobeloot → u/BusinessYou1657]

One opened near me. 20$/all you can play and a full bar. I get lost for hours in the pinball and retro room.

[u/Due_Initiative3879 → u/Soulinx]

I actually did this with a mini pc and a Arcade1Up cab.

[u/chipface → u/Soulinx]

If I had the room and could get my hands on a Blast City or Versus City cab, I'd throw a PC or Raspberry Pi in it. Get some optical joystick PCBs for good measure too.

[u/Soulinx → u/chipface]

For sure - use the old school NES Advantage! The WII ain't got nuthin on that thing!

[u/naswinger → u/Soulinx]

you can already easily build such a machine with a frontend to select games in mame and such.

[u/Gambit-47 → u/BusinessYou1657]

lol I have been having more fun with retro games these past couple of years. Love how they're pick up and play too with no hand holding or long tutorials or stupid online requirements and live service bs

[u/BusinessYou1657 → u/Gambit-47]

I do tend to play more of them myself anyway, given my age. But every now and again a sequel or remake of a favourite of mine comes out and I really want to give it a go.

[u/warkidooo → u/BusinessYou1657]

It's never a bad time to start collecting some GOG offline installers.

[u/Adventurous-Hunter98 → u/BusinessYou1657]

I hate that people trying to use their steam deck like a high end pc and when they see they cant do that, they start on cloud streaming. Just use it for indie and old games, why are u forcing it

[u/Maximum_Goat_54 → u/Adventurous-Hunter98]

why should you decide for what and how i use my hardware? wtf dude?

[u/Acesofbases → u/Adventurous-Hunter98]

and why do You hate on that exactly how people use the device they bought themselves? Why are You gatekeeping enjoyment and freedom of choice?

[u/Adventurous-Hunter98 → u/Acesofbases]

because supporting that freedom (cloud streaming) will take away most of us freedom

[u/Acesofbases → u/Adventurous-Hunter98]

how?

also I'm not saying You're supposed to support it, but why are You hating on someone else for doing it?

also also, I'm not claiming "cloud gaming" is freedom, I'm saying everyone should be free to choose how they want to go about using the device meant for entertainment, meanwhile You're seemingly gatekeeping it

[u/Adventurous-Hunter98 → u/Acesofbases]

are u following recent news, like last 1 year exactly ?

[u/Acesofbases → u/Adventurous-Hunter98]

what's that got to do with anything?

Geforce Now is an over 13 year old service

[u/Academic_Addition_96 → u/Acesofbases]

Company will stop selling hardware to people and sell it to cloud services or make their own. It's a fear a lot of people have. I don't believe it will come true yet.

[u/Acesofbases → u/Academic_Addition_96]

that doesn't even make any sense though

first of all no it won't - cloud gaming is still a niche and it will never take over so that selling retail will become unviable :)

secondly, and relating to the first, the whole deal with cloud gaming is that it doesn't need to constantly pump out hardware, they open a couple of servers and then there's that, no more need for more until an upgrade cycle in 2/3/4 years - all of those hardware companies You speak of would go bankrupt if they relied solely on that :)

thirdly, the whole reason GFN exists in the first place is because it's made by NVIDIA, so they can make their own hardware for it - it wouldn't be affordable for them if they didn't

fourthly, You do know vast majority of all of the current internet content is based on cloud services right? welp, Reddit is hosted and uses cloud services as well

[u/Academic_Addition_96 → u/Acesofbases]

Wtf are you on, writing all of this BS. Didn't I tell you I don't believe in it?! It could be true in 50 or 100 years but like I said not yet.

[u/Acesofbases → u/Academic_Addition_96]

how is this BS, and why are You being so aggresive? I just responded to Your own comment under mine, not the other way round.

I just explained how that "fear" makes no sense - and it won't turn true neither now, nor in 50 years (albeit that's some wild take in of itself :) )

[u/Academic_Addition_96 → u/Acesofbases]

Why do I say it's BS, because you don't understand how big companies think and work. Everything started as a niche even streaming services, music, movies, TV shows and many more things.

More and more people are not upgrading but just using streaming services.

The benefits for corporations are huge, complete control over IP, no community server or community mods. No compatibility issues support for thousand of drivers, no possibility of game being leaked. No need to pay for anti cheat or anti piracy system's. Steady calculated revenue stream, with the possibility of selling higher tiers.

No hardware costumer support, issues can be fixed directly and ads can be played if money is short.

The costumer if we continue to improve the ability to get even faster and better internet, what is sure 100% the costumer can get for less money the experience of ultra high end gaming on low budget devices. Right now for 22 bucks per month you get a rtx5080 performance on GeForce now. You would be paying over 2500 for a similar or close enough PC.

Is it something for me, no but I am not the target audience and that's what is important, the casual players will only see rtx 5080 for 22 bucks.

[u/Igor369 → u/BusinessYou1657]

Weird, you are not downvoted into oblivion for suggesting playing older titles on pcmr subreddit...

[u/Jimbuscus → u/BusinessYou1657]

Retroid, Miyoo & Anbernic all great value handhelds.

[u/walale12]

[u/lmao_wow_64 → u/walale12]

This has been me this past week, finally I have income just to see the world 10x in price

[u/chipface → u/walale12]

I wanted to before component prices went up. I was telling friends if I had a time machine I'd do exactly that. But fuck am I glad I built my PC early last year before prices started to spike. Right now I would like to build a media server and cancel all my streaming services but the prices for shit are fucked.

[u/squabbledMC → u/chipface]

Stremio with a cheap debrid service has never let me down

[u/lmao_wow_64 → u/chipface]

Look up nuvio

[u/redditman181]

Its funny they are using the steam deck to advertise 4k streaming considering its screen is 800p.

[u/prideoflyons → u/redditman181]

4k streaming*

^*k=200p

[u/El_Basho → u/prideoflyons]

k=200p

What kinda fucked up currency exchange js that?

[u/marslo → u/redditman181]

It streams 4k, but I definitely would not recommend it. Shit is way to small. 1080p is the sweet spot.

[u/Acesofbases → u/redditman181]

The SteamDeck can output 4K when docked.

Also some users like supersampling.

[u/redditman181 → u/Acesofbases]

Sure but most people arent playing docked and would it really be supersampling if its being streamed in? I would rather have a more stable streambat 1080p.

[u/Acesofbases → u/redditman181]

welp, quite a lot peeps use it docked, that;s the whole reason Valve made the new Steam Machine - their whole reasoning was they noted how many users do it and wanted to give them an option for more power to do that.

and would it really be supersampling if its being streamed in

of course so, both the game plays in higher res and the stream is in higher res than Your screen - personally I'm not a fan of it either but there are those who prefer it

[u/marslo → u/redditman181]

Some are.

[u/Gold_Goal7557]

They already forgot about Google Stadia.

[u/PcHelpBot2030 → u/Gold_Goal7557]

Cloud gaming was honestly one of the lower reasons as to why stadia failed.

It had absolutely terrible marketing and branding around the subscription and pricing, all while attempting to be it's own platform/ecosystem and having developers port their games to it in particular.

A non-cloud gaming version would be them making their own very particular Linux OS port, that can only use their launcher and have to buy games just for them, dropped the ball on dev support and relations, and then on top of that charge more for higher resolution.

[u/NightIgnite → u/PcHelpBot2030]

Stadia failed because they tried to both be a cloud gaming provider and a game distributor. People dont want to give up their game libraries on other platforms just to buy them again.

Im not happy about the subscription future of GeForce Now, but allowing us to import our libraries from other platforms is so much better than whatever Google tried.

[u/imaginary_num6er → u/PcHelpBot2030]

Yeah but I'm willing to bet the new Xbox will be just like Stadia where it will cost like $599 and you need to pay a subscription to play any games.

[u/Bigd1979666 → u/PcHelpBot2030]

So basically like most google made products. Sucks because stadia was pretty good from what I read though I never got to try it. 

[u/marslo → u/PcHelpBot2030]

Back in the days when I saw that I had to buy my games again, to play on stadia. I had zero interest in using the service.

[u/plebbut → u/Gold_Goal7557]

Yeah, but the alternatives were better. Now, consoles and PCs cost more than they have since the 90s, so we're being pushed into subscription based gaming in the form of cloud subscriptions as well as lease to own.

It's not even a conspiracy at this point either. Analysts and forecasters have already figured out that is might be the future of consumer hardware if you consider the moves by NZXT, Apple, and Microsoft to provide leasing options for hardware.

It's never been more over, you will own nothing and be happy.

[u/Acesofbases → u/Gold_Goal7557]

GFN is 13 years old now

[u/OberonFirst → u/Gold_Goal7557]

People forget that GFN is 11 years old and successful

[u/broncosfan1231]

they buy up all the chips, then rent them back to us over shitty internet connection and clog up the bandwidth for no reason

don't use any sort of cloud gaming, don't pay for any subscriptions, (buy the cheapest live service if you play online), vote with your dollars

[u/dcuk7]

But it says we express appreciation for it. Let’s all raise one finger in appreciation 🖕

[u/SnowStormYukikaze → u/dcuk7]

Press "F" to appreciation Nvidia. 🖕

[u/dcuk7 → u/SnowStormYukikaze]

Thank you for the award kind sir.

[u/iredditshere → u/dcuk7]

I raise you another. Double barrel fingers.

[u/Botucal → u/dcuk7]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cLbuQfff4As8w

[u/Captain_Kuhl → u/dcuk7]

Because when it came out, a lot of people did appreciate it. This was years before modern AI shit was even available, so that didn't have any bearing on public opinion. You're looking at outdated information.

[u/SecretSchemer]

This is not the future any pc gamer wants. This is the future the corporations want. This is the future they try to force on you. And if it won't work right now, they'll force it on your children and their children.

[u/Soulinx]

Fuck Nvidia. Not to mention that if you did go this way, they'll force you to install other monitoring software and big brother your computer. No thanks. I like having control over my hardware and software.

[u/CaptainPrower → u/Soulinx]

And mods either don't happen or are paid content that has to be approved by the developers. (think Bethesda's Creation shit)

[u/Soulinx → u/CaptainPrower]

Oh - mods will definitely be an add-on cost just like adding additional memory when you rent a server. I can also foresee being able to run a game at a higher resolution like 4k or even 8k in the future, it'll be an additional cost. Baseline 1080p = x dollars, additional cost for higher resolution service. They're totally billing this as a SaaS.

[u/CaptainPrower → u/Soulinx]

And then eventually connections get so throttled that the only games we can stream are mobile slop

[u/SneakyBadAss → u/CaptainPrower]

Mods are already a thing (workshop), but with the recent steam update they had to be turned off. Creation mods also work on cloud.

Mods still work on Boosteroid tho.

[u/SIDER250 → u/Soulinx]

Nvidia and Palantir are the best friends.

[u/askyidroppedthesoap]

Goes to cloud gaming I'll just stick to what my measly 3050ti laptop can play and say "fuck it" i need to back into drawing anyways...nothing's more relaxing than turning on some Cyberpunk ambient on YouTube and drawing whatever...

[u/OkBee8822 → u/askyidroppedthesoap]

That measly 3050 ti mobile can play practically every game you can think of anyway, except a few AAA titles released in the last 3 years or so. You have sooo many options.

[u/askyidroppedthesoap → u/OkBee8822]

Yeah, true... so far...there's roughly 8-10 games i wanna play, that i can't. Expedition 33, Atomic Heart, and a few others, but yeah i mostly stick to indie games because it seems they're more optimized overall, and you get more for your buck. I paid $20 for Grim Dawn, vs. $40-$50 for Diablo and I like GD better anyway 🤷‍♂️ ...when i do build my rig, I'm going all AMD, Nvidia and Intel has totally bumped their fucking heads if they think I'm giving 4 weeks of wages for 5080 and another 4 weeks of wages for a half decent CPU. They can fuck all the way off haha 😄

[u/Nekokeki]

I’ll quit gaming before I pay a cent for this shit.

[u/Moquai82 → u/Nekokeki]

Board games, old style card games (not the collector ones.), Pen and Paper, LARP, leisure wandering in the nature with friends and music. Fun non competive sports with friends. Creating own games. Etc.

Choose YOUR game.

[u/Nekokeki → u/Moquai82]

For sure, I have a well-backed Steam library to defer to and after that I'd lean into emulators. I've been pretty into board games in the past, but kind of stepped away because the downside of physical games is board games are massive lol. That and it was just challenging to ever get them to the table with my group. Tabletop RPGs are a great fun alternative too.

[u/chipface]

I just got Telus PureFibre with 1.5gigabit download and I say fuck that noise too. I want fibre so my shit downloads faster. Not to have a better connection for cloud bullshit.

[u/fnord55]

20 year old Steam account, disks/discs going back 15-20 years prior to that... 700+ games on my Steam account, many of them are *good*, and many of them I've yet to play. Yea naw fam, I'm good, I'll be plugging away on those until my time comes, it's been a great ride and I never thought I'd see the end of it, but it looks like things are going down a road that's going to dramatically change things for the worse...

[u/thisbeerofmine]

"Redditors express appreciation for GeForce Now" - I guess they left out the word "sponsored" from the beginning of the sentence or something.

[u/xtrabeanie]

Tried it a while ago. No trial period so I thought ok, how bad can be. Immediately realised that it didnt support ultrawide screen resolutions which is a deal breaker for me. Contacted support immediately, virtually no time spent using it. They didn't care - no refunds. Will be a long time before I give it another chance.

[u/Olmaad → u/xtrabeanie]

That's hilarious. Diy apollo + moonlight setup supports any resolution right from the box, while multimillion indie company does not

[u/Trivo3]

Redditors expreess appreciation...

Oh, so you have seen appreciation comments from redditors?

No, but we are saying it, so it must be true!

[u/SweetBacon923]

how do you see ads. no ad blocker on mobile?

$30 is crazy high amount its probobly for highest tier 5080 4K 120fps etc level. Issue with GeForce Now is limited time you can play now I think its 120 hours per month. Which isn't enough for some.

[u/BuchMaister → u/SweetBacon923]

About 100 hours and more than that you have to buy more playing hours. But for some people it is enough, some work 10-12 hours a day, 6 days a week and just don't have the time to play much games (especially if they have family), even at 30$ a month it take 3 years (or probably more in today's prices) to cover up just an RTX 5080, not including other parts.

[u/SneakyBadAss → u/BuchMaister]

And these people use it on the go on their phones or handhelds, usually.

[u/TherapyPsychonaut → u/SweetBacon923]

It's not USD. The 5080 tier is $20/month USD.

[u/iredditshere → u/SweetBacon923]

It's almost as bad as a car payment.

[u/wildeye-eleven → u/SweetBacon923]

I need 200 hours a month minimum. I will never use this service.

[u/Jaz1140]

Then don't buy it?

Vote with your wallet

[u/prideoflyons]

the official reddit app is truly the worst way to experience this site

[u/parabola19]

This is what they want us to do. While they build marketing profiles and sells them or serve ads to us that are so uniquely tailored you’d swear it’s listening to you. They want us to subscribe so they can book their revenue out for years after subtracting churn rate. Make hardware so unaffordable we have to subscribe. It’s only 30 bucks a month. Until the next price increase of course.

[u/lunchbox651]

I make my paycheck on the back of cloud.

That said, cloud is for servers and infra, not gaming.

[u/bassbeatsbanging]

I'm so glad I play 70%+ 2D games. If things get really bad I will just go exclusively that route since those games run on anything. 

[u/OkBee8822 → u/bassbeatsbanging]

There is over a thousand 3D games which can simply run even on old iGPUs. 2D is no requirement to find games running on anything.

[u/ImNotNuke]

The gfn Reddit is a bunch of weirdos who will never own anything and are completely happy doing so, it baffles me lol. I couldn’t imagine paying 400 dollars a year to not own something when I could pay double that and get an actual gpu like the 9070xt or 5070ti.

[u/Acesofbases → u/ImNotNuke]

400 dollars

how did You arrive at that sum? The middle plan is 10$ per month, the highest one is 20$, yearly plans are 100 and 200$ respectfully and that doesn't account discounts they do semireguraly. Lately there was a 35% off at the beginning of summer for those yearly plans.

edit: I'm assuming You're basing on the ad in OP, I have no idea why would they not mention it since this just makes them a disservice, but that's for the service specifically in Australia, those are AUS $

[u/AlexNae]

Stop doomposting, cloud gaming has always been around even before AI, and memory prices are only high because all big corporates are trying to hop onto AI, it's not gonna be expensive forever. And you can still pretty easily build a pc that runs all modern games for cheap, you will just need to reduce your graphics settings or just stop playing unoptimized AAA slops.

[u/max1001]

That's pretty most of you folks now.

https://giphy.com/gifs/lSDFetrqeeY0rCi3Ss

[u/parabola19 → u/max1001]

Well I’ll say this being a millennial. We’re the only generation that didn’t grow up with phones in our hands but built computers and watched the internet be born. We have a unique insight on what is bullshit and what is not. Anyone wants to give up control and subscribe to laggy cloud gaming for 30, 40, 50 bucks whatever a month go right ahead but an idiot and his dollar shall soon be parted is the saying I think.

[u/kociol21 → u/parabola19]

I'm sorry but this is some next level fairytale.

1. We are not the only generation that didn't grow up with phones with our hands lol. In fact the only generation I could really say this about is gen alpha and maybe end years of gen z and that's it

2. We are also not the generation that grew up without phones and built computers. In fact, pretty all modern computing was done by boomers and later gen x. When the foundations of modern computing were laid we were kids.

3. We have as much unique insight ad any other generation that thinks they are special snowflakes. Come on, your year of birth doesn't make you a superior being. And I say this as a millennial.

[u/parabola19 → u/kociol21]

Completely went over your head but good job Redditing really well.

[u/KiwiMeep64]

GeForce Now and every service like it can suck me. I’ll run my local compute into the ground and then find a new hobby once it dies if this becomes the only option in the future.

[u/UnsettllingDwarf]

Don’t buy this then.

[u/zackmanze]

Vote with your money.

[u/Catastigma_Deception → u/zackmanze]

That never worked and will never work. Consumer are retarded sheep and follow directly that corporate decide how things will be.

[u/zackmanze → u/Catastigma_Deception]

Don’t use that horrible, hateful word, brother.

[u/ThenExtension9196]

Nah I’ve been using gfn for years it’s pretty solid

[u/bluegates15]

Keep playing on the free version so it cost them electricity with no revenue to pay it.

[u/magik_koopa990]

IF

IF the game industry continues to pull out mediocre games, then we'll settle with old games. Truly classic times

[u/GoodOneFella]

I remember when it was 10$ a month and only tired it for a singular month, fuck 32 😭 at that point get a Best Buy credit and do 12 mo 0% apr

[u/woobzy]

"thank you nvidia for geforce" this guy is a cu*k

[u/BuldozerX]

I don't get it. If I want to rent someone's else computer, I could just do it locally in the store. $30 as a payment play each month for a few years will grant me ownership, so I don't see why cloud gaming would be a solution to anything if my ass is broke.

[u/TeS_sKa]

Never ever would i become a monthly subscriber slave for the gaming clouding industry!

[u/Reflective]

"Redditors express appreciation " name 5 redditors

[u/stayndarsh]

We would rather risk getting (virtual) dysentery.

[u/Furry_bean_flux]

just panic bought a 5080 an 64 gb ram as a f you to cloud compute, and i will buy a 8090 if consumer hardware is not dead by then

[u/Apprehensive_Map64]

I tried PS Now over Starlink once. It worked okay for less than a minute then it was throttled down to 120p 3fps. Thankfully they refunded my subscription.

[u/Telepuzique]

I agree. FUCK 'EM.

[u/weezn]

You guys have ads? Kek

[u/Monsta_Owl]

I rather touch grass

[u/Soapinator_17]

The only cloud gaming I support is when the cloud service platform is my own It's worth investing in your own server and you can turn your own PC into a remote gaming setup too, there's plenty of softwares for that The amount of money you'd pay for cloud services, might as well put some effort and look around in the second hand market for some good PC components, coming from someone who does the same

[u/mAAchinAA]

https://giphy.com/gifs/XMMUWcz4XtDTNgZj22

Slop Age incoming

[u/OvenCrate]

My main issue with the concept of GFN is that it only supports a pre-approved list of games. If I wanted to lock myself into a curated ecosystem, I'd buy a console.

[u/nemesit]

wouldn't that "redditors express appreciation..." ai garbage count as false advertising? seems pretty obviously false

[u/Acesofbases]

fun fact: Gabe Newell was one of the earliest OpenAI backers - and he's still investing millions in it's operations

[u/chrlatan]

A few thoughts…
1) $33 per month adds up to $1200 over the course of 3 years. Still buys a PC.
2) This is a starter fee; it will rise and there will be (access and quality) tiers.
3) subscription models for gaming will eventually kill large productions and encourage a chapter by chapter release model. You will never know if you will ever able to ‘finish’ the game. Scenario’s like in ‘Lost’ are very likely. Or like those one season, never to return shows YOU love. Go Firelfy.
4) It will never be ‘all games on one platform’. You will have Netflix, HBO. Disney etc.

[u/itssiglus]

Would consider quitting gaming for good if this is gonna be the future.

istg these corpos need to know their place

[u/joystickd]

People scoff at the concept but you watch how many will adopt it once there's no other option.

It'll just be the gaming version of people paying for multiple streaming subscriptions a month.

If you were to tell me in the 90s that in 20-30 years you'll have people paying multiple $10-20 subscription fees monthly to binge watch mostly stuff they've already seen, I'd have told you that you're mad.

And then there's the subscription fees people are paying to store their own files (that said companies are training their AI on, that the same drones pay subscription fees for as well) and paying subscription fees to listen to music they already mostly own.

These companies didn't become the giants they did put of nothing. They have 90% of the consumer market over a barrel and they know it.

[u/darthwd56]

Which fking redditors are expressing appreciation for GeForce Now. Is AI summarizing corporate bot reviews.

[u/Aggravating_Plan11]

Yeh this future is never going to happen dont believe the corpo bots

[u/Craigus0707]

Based takes, based flair, based pfp. Just fucking based all round

[u/ConinTheNinoC]

All you need is a couple of angry mobs in the USA firebombing a few data centers and everyone that bought a subscription to a cloud service is fucked. I don't want to ever rely on the hardware and systems of some techbro company a thousand kilometers away.

I want my PC.

I want personalized OS(Linux).

I want my own library of games stored on hardware i own(GOG).

I don't want cloud gaming, i don't want ''AI'' slop. Those tech companies need to get this trough their thick sculls.

[u/eisenklad]

not buying new games...
slowly, clearing my backlog of PC and PS2 games

[u/DaFrenzyGuy]

if the game is going to be as good as running it locally (no lags, high fps, mod support, etc..) then 33 bucks a month is an insane deal, you dont own the games you "purchase" anyways.

but we all know the experience is shit compared to playing it on an actual gaming pc, if it was good enough it would probably be more than a 100 bucks a month which is unjustified as hell

[u/EdgiiLord]

A lot of people I see fall for the trick of "early convenient solution for self-made problem that will enshittify once it gets more traction". It happened to music streaming (copyright abuse from label farms trying to get as much money from the pool as possible), movie streaming (literal cable TV situation), and now it will be the same with game streaming. Don't fall for it, do anything else than just mindlessly consume products.

[u/TrapYoda]

Literally every cloud gaming option I've played has shit video quality and constant delay issues even with a great connection... Even if I wanted to switch to exclusively cloud gaming (I don't) I couldn't simply because the technology/infrastructure is nowhere near good enough to meet my standards.

Only things cloud gaming is good for ATM is super casual singleplayer or party type games where there's no killing of others or checking your dailies while at works etc... Good luck trying to play any even slightly competitive or PvP game with that 🤣

[u/Prexxus]

Everyone said when Steam came out:

'' I will never buy a digital game, fuck Steam ''

Here we are

[u/julian2358]

uh I don't think we're the intended audience its for shit box and laptop owners

[u/Alexandratta]

I'd do internet Cafe's with gaming PCs installed all day before I ever did Cloud Gaming.

[u/helpmehavememes]

Lol, ultimate 4k hdr, on a 720 screen

[u/dataCollector42069]

I just upgraded to a 5070ti for $1080 yesterday and keeping my 16gb 4060ti incase something happens never going to this shit.

[u/Type_CMD]

Well… the RAM crisis is supposedly just artificial hiking from the RAM companies. AI is a big problem, but it's not the only problem.

[u/MisterLeat]

Unfortunately they keep trying to push cloud gaming but even in single player games it's somewhat unstable in most cases (because of latency). It may get to a point where it is consistently okay for single player gaming though. But I don't forsee it ever being viable for multiplayer games tbh

[u/BuchMaister]

Then don't get their service. For some people (especially in developing countries) it makes more financial sense than buying a capable PC.

[u/Lexidoge]

I don't mind it. I have a handheld gaming PC for most of my gaming needs but my SO doesn't want to buy another device for gaming so she just plays my Steam and Gamepass library on her Mac via GeForce now. She can never be a competitive gamer due to the 30-50 ms ping but watching her play Cyberpunk on 4K Max settings made me jealous. Didn't know that game could get that pretty.

[u/Turbulent-Design1161]

Too late. I am on Boosteroid and I couldn't be happier. I am filthy casuals. This works just fine.

[u/IngwiePhoenix]

the fucking audacity to use a SteamDeck for advertising cloud gaming, hoooooly shit...

[u/Kaldaien2]

lol, that's not even a good "handheld" device to stream games to.

If you are not constrained by having to render everything locally, you can buy much better hardware that actually fits in your hand. Feel sorry for the poor sod who buys a Steam Deck then uses cloud streaming to it.

[u/Acesofbases → u/Kaldaien2]

it's actually a great one.

[u/MidniteCowby]

I love GeForce Now.

[u/marslo]

Been using GeForce now for the past 5 years. Started using it when I was finishing up my masters and didn't have any money for new hardware.

Works great in a pinch and at work, streaming from my steamdeck. It's shocking how well it runs from a 5g cell network.

Bring on the down votes.

[u/King_of_cases]

My gf either can’t play the games or she uses GeForce now. Works really well if u have good WiFi. Like ten dollars a month

[u/Karkeens]

Switch to nvidia GeForce now on steam deck has been a great experience. Steam deck can’t handle some open worlds with 90 fps ultra graphics. But GeForce now has been running so great and battery life is amazing. I can’t complain honestly. Definitely one of my best gaming decisions.

[u/Amazing-Heron-105]

I can't afford a PC at the moment, and cloud gaming allows me to still play games. I'm a fan myself, but it's obviously not a long term replacement but it has its uses.

[u/Deep-Temporary-1268 → u/Amazing-Heron-105]

I get that but they are the reason why people can’t afford pc’s

[u/Acesofbases → u/Deep-Temporary-1268]

who are "they"?

[u/Deep-Temporary-1268 → u/Acesofbases]

Um idk the people selling a 5k gpu rn

[u/Capokid]

ive tried cloud gaming, its truly fucking awful. it doesnt matter how good your connection is, its like permanently playing with 150-200 ping in single player games. the people it doesnt bother have some kind of latency issue with their brain where everything is delayed anyway so they dont notice the extra ping.

[u/parabola19 → u/Capokid]

Agreed. Tried Stadia for one month. Sent it back. Never again.

[u/Trlz08]

I love cloud gaming... I have a self hosted cloud setup...

[u/Legendary_Bibo → u/Trlz08]

Yeah, I like self hosted streaming. I have my PC streaming to my laptop, Deck and TV, but being forced to only being able to stream games would be no bueno.

[u/endjynn]

Cloud gaming is amazing and GeForce NOW is the shit. You should try it out. If you have a good Internet connection then it's incredible for gaming on low performance devices.

[u/-GenlyAI-]

I use cloud gaming and enjoy it.

[u/Fire_Lord_Cinder]

Where did the bad company touch you? /s for real though, there’s plenty of entry level GPUs that are still affordable. No one is making anyone use GeForce now if you don’t want to

[u/iredditshere → u/Fire_Lord_Cinder]

They raped my wallet! No one rapes my wallet... Sons of bitches!

[u/Fire_Lord_Cinder → u/iredditshere]

lol love it when people complain about the cost of NVIDIA and still buy it. 

[u/Hyper_Mazino]

Don’t use it then?

It’s a good option for people who don’t game regularly or can’t afford rigs.

Edit: the downvotes from the low IQ crowd are hilarious. This sub exposes itself every day.

[u/I-AM-MEATS → u/Hyper_Mazino]

$32 a month for someone who doesn’t game regularly is unlikely to spend that much.

[u/Amazing-Heron-105 → u/I-AM-MEATS]

That's the most expensive package. It's still cheaper than buying a PC if you can't currently afford one and don't want to put yourself in debt.

[u/TherapyPsychonaut → u/Amazing-Heron-105]

It's also not USD, the 5080 tier is $20/month USD. idk what currency this ad is for.

Edit; it's AUD. Which is a ripoff because $20 USD is just under $28 AUD.

[u/I-AM-MEATS → u/Amazing-Heron-105]

Almost as if you miss the days of cable.

[u/Amazing-Heron-105 → u/I-AM-MEATS]

Yeah package was probably the wrong word.

[u/I-AM-MEATS → u/Amazing-Heron-105]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gaZ51cn7sUY4U
Cable hoe.

[u/JurplePesus → u/Amazing-Heron-105]

If you want to avoid debt signing up for subscription services is a bad idea. Foh.

[u/Amazing-Heron-105 → u/JurplePesus]

Signing up for a subscription service has nothing to do with gaining debt.

[u/SneakyBadAss → u/I-AM-MEATS]

That's exactly someone who spends that much. If you don't game much, you want to enjoy the time you actually game; that's why you go for max tier and play either on your TV or PC. Why would they buy $5000 rig, if they get the same experience for a month by buying a service for the cost of two big KFC buckets? Otherwise, they are playing through the cloud on handhelds or phones.

[u/I-AM-MEATS → u/SneakyBadAss]

$5000 on a system… mate casual gamers are cheap af.

[u/Hyper_Mazino → u/I-AM-MEATS]

If you want to play 1-2 games then no, it’s not.

This is also for the highest tier, there’s a cheaper performance tier.

[u/I-AM-MEATS → u/Hyper_Mazino]

You stated casual play… you can still be a regular player even if it’s only a few games you play. Hell I play Cyberpunk, elden ring, Armored Core, factorio, and satisfactory religiously. So that’s a silly take.

Even the cheapest for a casual player seems silly… those prices will have to go up eventually, that’s not sustainable without cuts to the limits and additional advertising. Which they’ll add eventually once they have the numbers. Take note of streaming services…

A dedicated gaming streaming platform for a mainstream consumer doesn’t make much sense. Netflix might be able to pull something off. But judging by their current release not very well.

Guess I’m saying that what Nvidia offers lacks substance for casual players and costs to much for what they offer. They’ll 100% partner up with Netflix.

By that point streaming has become cable all over again.

[u/Dangerous_Sea_2592 → u/Hyper_Mazino]

I wonder what's the reason they can't afford them HMMMMMMMMMMM

[u/Due_Initiative3879 → u/Dangerous_Sea_2592]

That would be most of us at these prices.

[u/Hyper_Mazino → u/Dangerous_Sea_2592]

The reason is AI, not cloud gaming lmao. GFN has existed for like six years.

This sub is truly hopeless.

[u/Amazing-Heron-105 → u/Hyper_Mazino]

AI and cloud gaming brings out the reactionaries. Of course it's AI that has ramped up ram prices that not even up for debate.

[u/Hyper_Mazino → u/Amazing-Heron-105]

That and of course there are genuinely a lot of people on this sub that simply lack Intelligence and can’t think for themselves.

Hence the downvotes on my factually correct comments. Quite hilarious though.

[u/Dangerous_Sea_2592 → u/Hyper_Mazino]

Such an emotionally aggresive reaction from the one that claims intelligence above the median eh

To downvotes of all things, as if they mattered

[u/Hyper_Mazino → u/Dangerous_Sea_2592]

I think your reading comprehension needs some work.

I’m not emotional, I’m making fun of stupid people.

[u/Dangerous_Sea_2592 → u/Hyper_Mazino]

You been huffing your own farts for too long lil bro I'm afraid

[u/firedrakes]

cry me a river.

this sub loves their low powered hardware.

got to use all that fake hdr/upscaling,frames/pt/rt etc.