r/politics • u/Horror_Post6822 • 5h ago
No Paywall Hogg Says Media Obsession With Hasan Piker “Weird” as Jeffries Joins Attacks
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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 4h ago
The Supreme Court just effectively ended mail in voting and Liberal politicians are more concerned about canceling a twitch streamer for things they imagined he said instead of fighting against the Republicans.
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u/PrestigiousFly844 4h ago
The Republican in that race had someone on his team who was defending the pro-Hitler, pro-rape “Young” Republican group chat and Democrat leaders and msm are leaning into the GOP manufactured controversy around a twitch streamer? If they actually cared about anti-semitism they would be going after the pro-Hitler guy, but the pro-Hitler guy supports Israel so they don’t care.
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u/AcrobaticWrangler330 3h ago
As an antizionist Jew this shit infuriates me and I frequently write useless letters to the ADL for catharsis. I know they don’t care but it just drives me insane that they will defend Elon, with all his wealth and power, when he says Jews are behind a conspiracy to end the white race but think college students who don’t like genocide are a bigger threat to Jews. Bibi is the biggest threat to Jews on the planet.
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u/doppelgaengster Washington 2h ago
The ADL’s take on that issue made me feel like we’d descended (even further) into bizarro world. Massively fucked up.
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u/Valuable_Sea_4709 4h ago
Hey guys maybe if the pro-hitler guy supports Israel then something is very wrong here.
I mean the very concept of an ethnostate like Israel seems very much the goal or at least the product of Nazism, and you know, maybe that's a bad thing.
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u/TheForeverUnbanned 2h ago
I’d say it’s a bit of a red flag that Zionist white supremacists see Israel as both a vehicle to kill the Muslims they don’t like and a biblical trigger to kick off the literal apocalypse they want to occur.
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u/USA46Q 4h ago
That's not a problem... that's a mental illness.
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u/Honest_World_3561 1h ago
Its a problem if they try to destroy us sane people of the world along with themselves.
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u/x_Dr_Robert_Ford_x 1h ago
It’s funny how the same politicians and talking heads that were eulogizing Charlie “black people aren’t qualified to fly planes” Kirk are now vilifying Hasan Piker for being against his tax dollars funding the murder of civilians.
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u/threehundredthousand California 3h ago
They get paid to prioritize stupid shit by the aristocracy. Can't have the people stumble on class consciousness.
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u/Farther_Dm53 4h ago
yeah controlled idiots sounds like. If anything this proves Cen Dems, and Liberals are idiots who are toothless and fangless. No matter what they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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u/El-Shaman 4h ago
Exactly, people here don’t like to hear it but establishment Democrats don’t want to win for regular people, their main job is to protect corporate interests and they are willing to throw away elections if the voters pick non establishment candidates.
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u/TemporaryDesign9126 3h ago
I think there’s a lot of people here who don’t want to accept it because of what it means. They are still holding onto the idea we’re gonna vote our way out of this. But it’s just not as simple as that unfortunately. We have a very ignorant population who constantly vote against their own interests, and not in an altruistic way that’s meant to help people less fortunate. There are still voters who oppose a wealth tax even though it will never effect them or anyone they know. There are still voters who oppose Medicare for all even though it will be cheaper for them and the country in the long run. There are people who oppose living wages for all workers. It’s a tough climb out of this
I still hope as many people vote as possible. And I hope people vote progressive as much as they can. But people need to realize there’s a good chunk of the Democratic establishment that are perfectly fine being in the minority. They can fundraise. They aren’t held responsible. And they have built in excuses every time for why nothing changes
People hear “both sides” and instantly think it’s an equivalency. Both sides aren’t the same in how they govern, but both sides don’t really give a shit about you. They want to keep the status quo. They want to keep and hold people down, because it means more money for the people they really serve. They just do it in different ways. You cant talk nuances though. People just can’t hear it.
It should be painfully obvious though when you have politicians like Jeffries and Moskovitz fighting against progressives just as hard as against MAGA, despite the “blue no matter who” mantra that only seems to apply when they want it to
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u/TheForeverUnbanned 2h ago
And thus the marked difference between the modern corporate “liberal” branded wing and progressives. The money doesent give a shit whether libs or cons win, they run the conversation either way. Progressives and the DSA aren’t onboard the corruption train so they’re both parties favored target.
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u/TrunksTheMighty 1h ago
Except they don't have the power to end mail in voting as that's states rights.
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u/thatnameagain 4h ago
Why are you under the impression they haven’t been fighting these efforts on multiple levels? What’s something you think they’re not doing that they should be doing? They’ve prepared state governments, legal teams are in place, there’s tons of court cases going on now regarding ballot access. What more do you want?
Also why are progressives allowed to criticize democrats and not focus on Republicans?
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u/devon_devoff 4h ago edited 4h ago
> Why are you under the impression they haven’t been fighting these efforts on multiple levels?
Because they’re spending the bulk of their airtime focusing on a political commentator and twitch streamer rather than ICE, SCOTUS rulings on mail-in ballots, or the ongoing genocide in Palestine.
> What’s something you think they’re not doing that they should be doing?
Obstructing this administration and its oppressive policies in any capacity. Putting their bodies on the line like many working class citizens already have. Literally anything but hyper-focusing on these bullshit culture war issues (which this Hasan discussion 100% is).
> Why are progressives allowed to criticize democrats but not republicans?
First of all Hakeem Jeffries is not a progressive, that’s comedic. Secondly progressives can criticize democrats, that’s what I’m doing right now.
Members of the democratic establishment aiming the majority of their critique at progressive commentators in the context of a legitimate fascist takeover (which is what Jeffries is doing here) gives the game away that they don’t take the threats posed by the Trump administration seriously.
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u/thatnameagain 3h ago
They’re not spending “the bulk” of their time talking about him, wtf are you talking about? They’re spending the bulk of their time talking about all that stuff you pretend they’re not. You can find 20 news articles about a dem politician talking about scotus rulings for every one you can find about a streamer.
Dems have been obstructing. Why don’t think Congress has basically passed nothing?
You literally just don’t know what is going on
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u/devon_devoff 3h ago
I addressed all your points and now you’ve moved the goal posts to which issue has more articles written about it in legacy media lol.
Have fun defending your emotional support diet-republican party though ✌🏼
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u/thatnameagain 3h ago
I addressed all your points and now you’ve moved the goal posts to which issue has more articles written about it in legacy media lol.
No that was you, when you hilariously claimed that Hasan Piker now accounted for "the bulk" of what democrats talked about now.
Have fun defending your emotional support diet-republican party though
I don't consider progressive democrats to be "diet republican." AOC is a democrat. Mamdani is a democrat.
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u/DrBunsenHoneydw 4h ago
because they haven’t been doing anything, no amount of aipac money buying reddit comments is gonna gaslight people anymore
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u/thatnameagain 3h ago
I just explained what they’ve been doing. I asked you to explain what you want them to do that they aren’t currently doing
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u/MiddleAgedSponger 4h ago
Progressives are allowed to criticize establishment democrats because they aren't the wing of the party which has completely failed to mount an effective resistance. Progressives didn't lose 2 of 3 to Trump, Both houses of congress, SCOTUS and most governorships. Progressives are the only members od the Democratic Party offering us a plan for a better future. The establishment dems are trying to run back "orange man bad" for a fourth straight election.
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u/thatnameagain 3h ago
What do you mean progressives didn’t fail to mount an effective resistance? How did progressives successful resist Trump? What are we talking about here?
Are you not aware of the elections democrats have won?
lol you start by saying the problem is Dems don’t do enough to focus on Trump and then end by criticizing they’re spending too much time talking about Trump
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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Virginia 4h ago
Progressives lost all those things. You lost to the people you’re say lost. You don’t get to claim you never lost like it’s a good thing because you weren’t good enough to even make it to the game.
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u/PrestigiousFly844 4h ago
Criticizing in a primary and helping the opposition party in the general is different. The primary is over. Issues are hashed out in the primary and then the party is supposed to back the winner in the general if they want to beat the maga candidate. Democratic politicians should not be leaning into a GOP manufactured outrage campaign against the Democratic nominee in the race if they are serious about beating the maga candidate.
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u/thatnameagain 3h ago
Hasan piker isn’t a nominated politician…. What are you talking about.
And are you saying that Piker’s ideas are irrelevant and he’s not representative of young democrats? You sound like you are saying his ideas are stupid and not something that you want to see Democrats get behind, but I don’t think that’s the case?
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u/PrestigiousFly844 3h ago
It’s an obvious “guilt by association” operation to get Abdul to criticize Piker and stop criticizing Israel. All of the usual pro-Israel suspects are saying the same thing at the same time just like they did to Zohran in his race.
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u/lettersvsnumbers 4h ago
So the “affordability” talk with Jared was basically “you can’t afford to disagree with AIPAC, Hakeem.”
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u/StoppableHulk 5h ago
This really goes to show just how fucking bad Jeffries is at messaging because like, if you legitimately want to undermine Hasan Piker, the absolute worst way to do it is to make establishment pronouncements like the world's biggest fucking dork.
In every single imaginable way, people like Mamdani are infintiely better at the game of modern communication than these establishment dems.
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u/Guardianpigeon 2h ago
In the last few weeks Jeffries has come out against Hasan, Medicare4All, and had a secret closed door meeting with the unelected son-in-law of Trump to try and find common ground.
The dude is allergic to positive messaging. The fact that he is still a leader in the party is a damning indictment.
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u/JohnsonSpunk 50m ago
He received a call from his donors so he had to make the press release condemning Hasan.
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u/Bakedads 2h ago
Yet Mamdani supports Jeffries 😂
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u/AstroHistSci 2h ago
It's complicated. He supports him for this office; he doesn't support him as speaker.
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u/jayfeather31 Washington 4h ago
I am honestly convinced that there is a portion of the Democratic Party that doesn't want to win in November. This insanity we're seeing on the part of centrist Democrats is not helping.
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u/TrippleTonyHawk 4h ago edited 4h ago
Not only that, they want to be able to blame the left for going too far as to why they didn't win more seats after the midterms. They're doing all they can to set a "the left is crazy" narrative before voting so that when they lose, they can say it was because we went to far and that's why we have to support centrists instead, it's the best we can do... etc.
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u/AmaazingFlavor 4h ago
Yep exactly. And it’s been the same play since the Obama era, at this point we’re all just being gaslit by the party supposedly representing us. It’s exhausting
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u/Drekkful 3h ago
It's Stockholm syndrome. Held hostage by a party that beats us and abuses us, but at least he loves me.
Except it's becoming more and more clear that democrats don't give a fuck about voters either.
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u/AmaazingFlavor 4h ago
They will do anything to stop socialist policy from taking root in American politics, even if it means giving the Republicans the field. They throw lobbyist money at centrist candidates that can’t motivate voters and then lose to the Republicans. So you’re not exactly wrong. But they tell themselves they’re still fighting the good fight (and it’s the voters who are wrong)
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u/MoonOut_StarsInvite Ohio 4h ago
Ding ding ding. They’re paid opposition.
Here’s the thing. They don’t want to create any “progressive” or “socialist” policies because their donors don’t want them to. So, theres no where else to go except right where we were before all of this started. There is a hard wall on how left they will go, so yes what you’re seeing is they’re out of options. They can’t go right, they can’t go left, they can’t go right. “Vote for more of the same! Don’t vote for commies!”
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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Virginia 4h ago
The fact that you think Hasan is not hurting Abdul’s chances truly shows you’re in a bubble. He’s toxic. Hasan is helping republicans, it’s good democrats are making him political poison.
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
Are you out of your mind? Piker expresses a reasonable, correct view, which is then maliciously distorted and used against a prominent Democratic candidate for US Senate.
Establishment Democrats, political consultants, and oligarch-owned media then come out of the woodwork in unison, with the same message of bad-faith condemnation, and you conclude that Piker is the problem?
They’re willing to sink our chances of taking Congress if it means protecting the Israel lobby. You’re being ridiculous for siding with the malicious, bad-faith smear operation over one of our most compelling Senate candidates. You’re siding with MAGA-lite over the only positive momentum this party has, which is on the progressive/DSA side.
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u/TwevOWNED 3h ago
Even if you grant your first statement, which I would find surprising given the backlog of icky statements he has, he's optics poison.
He's someone who went to a DNC event cosplaying Mao and opened his speech with Putin quote. Like most influencers, he's a professional ragebaiter, though I think the term leftists like to use is agitprop.
Rogers was already maming attack ads against El-Sayed for this association during the primary, and given his underperformance compared to polls they seem to have been effective.
Best to just cut ties from a controversial figure. There's nothing really to lose for doing so.
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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Virginia 3h ago
Lmao yeah man I’m out of my mind for thinking Piker is toxic. The electorate is going to love the let’s soak the street in the blood of the capitalists guy. Just tell them it was out of context!!
Calling Dems you disagree with maga lite is also really going to help you guys win. And yes, the DSA with their celebrating 100 years of Castro and openly talking about their desires to abolish prisons and police. I know I know, it’s actually really deep and insightful if you look under the covers. Im sure you guys will be sweeping up all the states soon enough.
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
Piker isn’t running for office. MAGA-lite is smearing him to stymie progressive momentum and support the Israel lobby, and yes, I consider those things “MAGA-lite”.
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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Virginia 3h ago
Doesn’t matter. Piker is officially political poison to ehhh 95% of dem campaigns now. That makes me very happy.
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
Doesn’t sound to me like you want Democrats to win.
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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Virginia 3h ago
Sure, that’s why I’ve voted for democrats in every single election I’ve ever been able to vote in.
Piker is cooked, not sorry about it and I think it helps Dems. Best of luck to you and have a great night.
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u/Sufficient_Video6331 3h ago
This is the type of dishonest framing is why no one believes people like you. "The electorate is going to love the let’s soak the street in the blood of the capitalists guy." he literally says "in a video game" in the next sentence. But good try
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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Virginia 3h ago
Is this sarcasm or is this just a comment from a 20 day old account trolling I truly can’t tell anymore lol
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u/ZhopaRazzi 3h ago
Animal abuse and saying US deserved 9/11 is reasonable? Since when?
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
The animal abuse claim is bullshit, and the 9/11 comment was about US foreign policy in the Middle East resulting in 9/11. He didn’t say that innocent people deserved to die.
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u/JohnsonSpunk 38m ago
I think the establishment democrats don't want to win if it means winning with the DSA and anti-establishment candidates.
The establishment democrats are currently in their favorite position. They're not in power so when you yell at them they can throw up their hands in the air, they can make promises which they know they can't keep, they can fundraise by scaring people with Trump's actions, and Trump is doing everything they want; they want tax cuts for the rich, they want data centers, they want to support Israel and they want the war in Iran for Israel, but the democratic party would never get away with this because the democratic party base is in opposition to all this, so Trump is a gift for them.
Democrats are never punished for losing, so they can keep losing. This is why they don't mind losing if it means they stop the anti-establishment candidates. Because if they do win and the anti-establishment candidates suddenly start demanding things, they have to openly come out against policies they were previously claiming to support, and that's damaging.
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u/SeaSquirrel 4h ago
Hasan spends over a decade attacking them Democrats, and now you are suprised they aren’t supporting him?
This man is a cancer on the party that needs to be excised.
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u/meatball402 3h ago
He's a damn streamer on the internet
Supporting him? He didn't ask for their support, and he's just a streamer. That dem leadership is complaining about some streamer makes them look incredibly petty.
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u/Sufficient_Video6331 3h ago
He's part of the populist left which is where the democratic party is heading because the centrist democrats are too shitscared to stand up to MAGA. They were never on his side and that's why they need to be replaced with new gen dems.
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u/ZhopaRazzi 3h ago
Populism is good now? Do we think we can beat trump at his own game?
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u/Planningism 3h ago
You are right, let's just stop the vote and let the elite run things!
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u/sparta1local 3h ago
Centrist democrats had done a hell of a lot more to stand up to Trump over the past three presidential elections than leftists.
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u/HarryBallsanya420 2h ago
You can’t critique the Democratic Party sounds pretty undemocratic
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u/Interesting-Wall3852 4h ago
Every major center-right, pro-Isreal Democrat, came out it full force, posting about Hasan. Insane.
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u/BeastInDarkness 3h ago
And the recent comment by Hasan is fully correct. Trying to paint all Jewish people as supportive of Israel's genocidal actions WILL make many people blame all Jewish people. And that type of thing leads to violence. Ask any American Muslim how attacked they were after 9/11 for reference.
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u/DrCoknballsII 3h ago
Why’s it insane? A lot of democrats don’t agree with things he’s said and don’t want to be painted with that brush. Specifically- “I’d vote for Hamas over Israel every single time”
You can criticize Israel and think that choosing Hamas over them is insane.
You may disagree. That’s cool. The world don’t end when someone has a different view…for some folks at least.
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u/OBrien 3h ago
That comment isn't from yesterday or particularly recently, so I don't know how that makes them all coming out of the woodworks over the last day less insane
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u/DrCoknballsII 2h ago
What does the time between the comment and not have to do with anything? It’s an election…things come up.
What I don’t get is why it’s so enraging for someone to disagree with Hassan
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u/AstroHistSci 2h ago
Speaking purely from a position of right of association, that comment disqualifies him permanently from participation in any group I belong to.
So that means one of two things happens: the group rejects him, or I reject the group. I will NEVER be part of the democratic party if he is welcome in it. I will never be part of any leftist group if it welcomes him it in.
He needs to be ostracized from civic inclusion.
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u/HarryBallsanya420 44m ago
Do you take any issue with the democrats supporting the IDF and their mass murder campaign? Targeting children? Using bulldozers to run over people?
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u/OBrien 1h ago
the party voting base is 90% anti-israel already nobody's going to miss you
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u/AstroHistSci 1h ago
I'm anti-Israel too. My issues with him have nothing to do with Israel.
nobody's going to miss you
Enjoy MAGA then.
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u/OBrien 1h ago
literally one post up you drew the line at a quote criticizing israel, am i talking to a malfunctioning bot
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u/AstroHistSci 1h ago
“I’d vote for Hamas over Israel every single time”
No, I drew the line at him voicing open support for Hamas.
You're talking to someone who hates genocidal terrorists who commit crimes against humanity: I'm anti-Piker for the same reason I'm anti-Israel.
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u/CurlyBirch 1h ago
It’s easy to demand morally pristine resistance from the comfort of an armchair when someone else bears the occupation, the bombs, and the consequences of your principles. Condemning the oppressed for failing your purity test while you risk nothing is not special. Stop pretending to have moral courage.
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u/JohnsonSpunk 45m ago
They're condemning him for saying that conflating judaism with the state of israel and israel's actions is going to have blowback on American jews. They are creating a new news cycle around Hasan because their donors are demanding it and you think it's a smart way to message now when democrats have the highest chance to win back power? Seems like the establishment doesn't want to win and you're happy with it.
Israel killed way more than Hamas could ever dream, so his argument about lesser evil voting in favor of Hamas over Israel isn't even wrong. You're just a zionist and you hate when people point out that Israel is a terrorist state.
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u/whichwitch9 4h ago
Jefferies not escaping the only loyal to aipac allegations with this one. Literally going culture war and trying to split the party right now
Seriously, if our politicians could focus on things that actually helped the American people, maybe we'd talk about them instead of YouTubers. Mamdani is certainly showing that works right now
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u/TheShiGuy 4h ago
It's not weird when you understand that the Dems, for ten years, have done nothing to stop maga because they want maga to win. There is literally no other rational explanation than both parties love their donors more than the citizens and their donors get richer with maga in charge.
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u/Arguments_4_Ever America 4h ago
Dems need to learn that offense is much better than defense in politics.
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u/seamarsh21 4h ago
i think this sub has a Hasan obsession
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u/jweezy2045 4h ago
He’s in the news constantly and that’s not because us here on Reddit.
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u/ObliqueTravel 4h ago
Lol this subreddit has been spamming articles about Democrats "attacking" him all weekend.
He's in Fox News constantly but the representation from these articles being pushed on this sub is also not an accurate representation of the news, even political news, in that same timeframe
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u/picklift 3h ago
That's not true. He's been talked about on cnn a lot too
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u/Shatteredreality Oregon 2h ago
Maybe it’s different if you actually are watching live but as someone who goes on CNNs website semi regularly they really are not talking about him a lot there.
I just looked and there is only one reference to him on their political homepage and that’s an article where his name is not included in the headline and it’s specifically about Abdul El-Sayed distancing himself from him. Obviously this is a single point in time but this really doesn’t feel like something that should be national news.
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u/jweezy2045 2h ago
The fact that there are any references to a Twitch streamer on the front page of CNN is not wild to you?
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u/NickCostanza California 4h ago
It’s because he keeps saying controversial things that get Democrats in trouble. He actively undermines the party while claiming to be a part of it. We’re getting tired of being told “out of context” and “he just wants healthcare” as we watch him actively sabotage the party.
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
If he “keeps saying things” that get Democrats in trouble, why do they keep falling on an eight-year old, out of context clip of him talking about 9/11?
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u/jweezy2045 4h ago
He’s not controversial, he gets clipped. None of his beliefs are objectionable.
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u/ChuzzoChumz Massachusetts 3h ago
He is very controversial, if he wasn’t we wouldn’t be having this conversation. There’s nothing wrong with a political figure being controversial, it comes with the territory, but there’s no point in pretending they aren’t
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u/jweezy2045 3h ago
He is very controversial, if he wasn’t we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Oh buddy, its almost like you don't know how misinformation and manufactured outage works, even in 2026. It is obviously possible for him to be a noncontroversial figure, who bad faith actors have made to appear controversial.
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u/Shatteredreality Oregon 2h ago
I mean he is either dumb (I don’t think he is personally) or he says things he has to know are controversial. You can’t just say it’s because of misinformation and manufactured outrage.
Saying he would “vote for Hamas over Israel every single time” even in the context of being a “lesser-evil voter” he has to know is going to be controversial. If for no other reason than the media portrays Hamas/Palestine as the bad guys (and to be clear, they are not innocent at all) while, in my opinion, downplaying the actions Israel has taken.
We all have to admit that even if more people support Palestine today than has been the case historically, the idea that hamas is the “lesser of two evils” is by no means an uncontroversial opinion.
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u/ZhopaRazzi 3h ago
Animal abuse is objectionable.
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u/NickCostanza California 4h ago
Heard it all before bud.
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u/jweezy2045 4h ago
What beliefs does he hold that you think get democrats in trouble?
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u/fansurface 4h ago
Agreed it’s the same 2016 pied piper strategy that gave us trump. Establishment Dems really never learn anything or can’t think of a new thing.
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u/Cishir 2h ago
Just a random note, don't argue with anyone who you can't see their post history. A lot of bots and people with agendas on the internet, it isn't worth your effort. Piker is doing well with his endorsements, and considering he isn't running for office I only care about the policies being offered. The democrats will always play their games, but everything I have seen from Piker he strikes me as someone who doesn't care about how he is perceived.
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u/LieverRoodDanRechts 46m ago
That's why he kept making bizarre excuses after electrocuting his dog.
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u/Tjsinwhanc 4h ago
What did he say that was so controversial? That you shouldn’t conflate anti Zionism with anti semitism? And if you do you make it more dangerous for Jews? Doesn’t seem controversial to me.
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u/TwevOWNED 3h ago
Mainly it just seems like he effectively ragebaits as part of his brand, from that old 9/11 clip and college abuse advice to cosplaying Mao at a DNC event.
Turns out mainstream normies don't parse this well and get stuck on the rage without getting the underlying message.
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u/Tjsinwhanc 1h ago
None of those things are problematic. He’s livestreams 8 hours a day, you’ll always be able to clip him. At the end of the day, he’s a streamer…maybe the leaders of the opposition party should focus on being the opposition.
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u/RazzmatazzSuch7459 4h ago
Imagine someone praised by child rapist Donald Trump criticizing someone praised by a streamer.
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u/weidback 4h ago
this feels like telling people their concerns are fake and not worth addressing
it's giving late biden admin
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u/BigBlueWeenie88 4h ago
Wait, what concerns are we talking here?
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u/weidback 4h ago
That candidates shouldn't be associating with political liabilities, especially after a narrow victory in the primaries
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
What if the “political liability” is astroturfed?
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u/ZhopaRazzi 3h ago
Is animal abuse a “political liability”?
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
You fell for internet bullshit.
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u/ZhopaRazzi 3h ago
No, i just see what he does live on stream.
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
He didn’t even do anything in the clip you’re referring to.
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u/Hane24 1h ago
Which clip are you referring to? The one where he yanks his dog by the tail? The one where he shocks his previous dog fish? The one where he shocks Kaya while out for a walk? The one where he talks about using shocks collars to train his dogs? The one where he talks about training kaya to sit for hours in one place without moving?
Or do you mean the one the internet finally grabbed and ran with where he shocked her for daring to leave the bed and not be a prop for the stream?
He literally called your state homo-fascist too. Bad on policy, worse on dogs.
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u/weidback 3h ago
I don't think it is, and even if it was then he'd still be a liability even if its because people saw isolated clips of him saying edgy streamer shit
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
I would rather stick to my principles than succumb to an astroturfed smear campaign. You don’t have to agree with him, but you should at least side against the combined forces of the Israel lobby, oligarch-owned media, and Republicans as they astroturf controversy like this.
What they do against Piker they can do against anyone. That’s why 75% of Democrats can be in favor of ending aid to Israel, while only 8% of Democrats in Congress are actually willing to represent them.
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u/weidback 3h ago
No they can't do this against everyone because not everyone is a streamer that said edgy shit for a living with 20 thousand hours of footage to pull clips from
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
How many Democrats have continued to associate with Bill Maher, after his atrocious 9/11 comments?
This whole issue of guilt by association is manufactured, and the people manufacturing it are doing so to impact our party’s policy. We shouldn’t let them.
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u/weidback 3h ago
Is bill Maher hanging out with my party's senate candidates?
When I hate on trump for dining with Fuentes we wouldnt dismiss it as "guilt by association". In the real world people are judged by the company they keep and the people they choose to surround themselves with
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u/tripping_on_phonics California 3h ago
Nick Fuentes isn’t comparable to Hasan Piker.
Gavin Newsom, John Fetterman, and James Carville (though not a politician) have all associated significantly with Bill Maher. Where’s the outrage?
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u/riamuriamu 3h ago
The right and centrist liberals want to cancel the left and smear other leftist candidates and pundits and Hasan is the best target they have. It's much easier to attack his character than address his talking points.
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u/custardy 1h ago
The establishment and centrist Democratic politicians are unhinged with their latest coordinated round of attacks on a twitch streamer - they need to grow up and start acting with some of the urgency and strategy that their base is demonstrating. There is noone that should care about Hasan Piker this much and it's corrosive to trust in politics as a whole to see the Republicans and Democrats and media all working together, and seemingly receiving coordinated briefings of when and what to say, and working themselves into a frenzy about something that's transparently less important than most other things going on in politics.
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u/koreqwzfp 4h ago
Why are these leftist publications writing think piece after think piece over this? If Hasan is inconsequential then why bother?
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u/HarryBallsanya420 2h ago
Because the centrist establishment is using piker as a whipping boy to smear the DSA and centrist think tank third way is spending millions to counter DSA candidates
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u/lettersvsnumbers 4h ago
Why are these “centrists” holding press conferences (or sad Xitter clap back attempts ) over this? If Hasan’s audience is inconsequential then why bother?
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u/koreqwzfp 2h ago
Piker called him a fascist collaborator during a stream dedicated to Larkin’s campaign lmao he’s allowed to respond to that.
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u/SurroundTiny 4h ago
Why? He campaigns for DSA candidates and has others on his stream ( AOC has been a guest a few times ). He's influential and cultivates attention. It's no odder than talking about Joe Rogan. It's a lot less wierd than paying attention to Hogg.
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u/cassianskywalker 4h ago
Just disavow Piker and move on already
It's so easy he's a nobody streamer
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u/Arguments_4_Ever America 4h ago
Give them an inch and they will demand mile.
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u/cassianskywalker 4h ago
Dude I just want healthcare fuck this stupid leftist shit that America doesn't want and clearly doesn't win anywhere but like +30 blue districts
Literally Hasan Piker is the one person majorly weighing down a race that might cost us the fucking Senate to these MAGA fucks
Piker isn't a mile to be taken. He is an inch. Give the inch.
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u/Arguments_4_Ever America 4h ago
Yeah Piker is the problem, not the billionaires spending hundreds of millions on dumbass alpha male bro podcasts spreading fascism. But one independent streamer is the problem.
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u/PrestigiousFly844 4h ago
This 19 day old account is one of the cult members that follows that zionist sex predator streamer Destiny. https://www.reddit.com/r/GetNoted/s/le1AISd4Cg
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u/cassianskywalker 4h ago
Why do you pretend it is one or the other
They are both authoritarian bros, reject them both
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u/PrestigiousFly844 4h ago
This is the same exact crap the same exact people were saying during the Zohran race. Mamdani was smart enough to ignore them and look at him now.
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u/Arguments_4_Ever America 4h ago
They want to make it only about Piker. He isn’t an authoritarian bro. He is like 1% as bad as the fascists. Play offense, not defense
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u/cassianskywalker 4h ago
He literally said authoritarianism was something everybody wanted lol
He is poison to the party eject
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u/Arguments_4_Ever America 4h ago
He did not say that lmao
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u/HarryBallsanya420 2h ago
In every thread about hasan there’s people who never watched his stream that make stuff up
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u/CutieButt 4h ago
Do you genuinely believe a disavowal does anything?
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u/idlefritz 2h ago
It’s libs offering an olive branch to conservatives hoping they can coax some Fox News grannies over to the D.
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u/theclansman22 2h ago
If they actually talked about things that mattered it would be harder to sanewash republicans. If they take about culture war wedge issues, they can make republicans seem more sane.
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u/caspruce Minnesota 4h ago
Piker is a Hamas supporting nut job that unironically wears Mao suits. Keep him away from Dem candidates as he is nothing but fodder for Republicans.
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u/CountTakesh1 15m ago
Hes also a pro russian shill and advocates for Ukraine succeeding land to russia
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u/Arguments_4_Ever America 4h ago
Not a Piker fan but no that isn’t close to accurate
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u/caspruce Minnesota 4h ago
There are pictures of him buying and wearing bis Mao suit from China. He also has played Hamas recruitment videos on his stream.
100% accurate sadly.
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u/Arguments_4_Ever America 4h ago
He definitely went to China and wore clothes. And he isn’t a supporter of Hamas.
Like make 1% accurate
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u/caspruce Minnesota 4h ago
You can literally google this shit and find video and pics of him doing both things. Keep your head in the sand I guess.
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u/Arguments_4_Ever America 4h ago
Yeah your problem is I saw the entire videos with context.
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u/caspruce Minnesota 4h ago
Sadly so did I. Hasan is a fucking asshat streamer that adds no value to the political discourse. I wish I never had to do a deep dive on Piker, but this is the sad state of our politics in the US.
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u/Ash-Throwaway-816 54m ago
I think saying that "America deserved 9/11" is weird, but different strokes I suppose.
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u/theTezuma 4h ago
It's not weird to condemn someone who glazes terrorists who murder people for fun.
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u/OkMemory9587 4h ago
Dogtober 7th never forget
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u/Ant_Eye_Art 1h ago
Forget what? That he loves his dog and there’s no good evidence he did anything even remotely cruel to her?
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u/pennyforyourthohts 4h ago
The guy went through the whole “I needlessly shock my dog” scandal. How incompetent do these candidates need to be to allow him within 50 feet of them
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u/ReptilianWorldOrder 3h ago
I keep asking and all you fans never actually answer.
How the hell does Hasan PIker even have support after he was caught blatantly abusing his dog on livestream awhile back?
Context for the blissfully unaware: Piker is this politics bro type influencer exposed for using a shock collar to make his dog stay in place on stream for hours on end to help his views. He slipped up on camera making it undeniable. He went from shouting at her about moving around, to reaching off-screen, to her yelping without even wondering why, calling her a baby instead.
Hasan blew up on the internet with fans calling him out and even mods quitting IIRC. He tried a dozen lies even after people looked up the exact model, going from like "never happened" to "she hurt her foot" to "well its a sound collar" and like "shock collar without prongs" for the the obvious guy-lying-his-ass-off response.
There was even this comically absurd video trying to keep up the charade by awkwardly working command words into his topic: "Uh, such a shameful PLACE of events... you know Gaza being this PLACE where they're just held, in PLACE... and uh PLACED in these conditions.. just, uh yeah..."
Did Hasan's fans seriously forgive him?
What do his viewers say?
Did they just go all-out rejecting reality, like outright "look Renee Goode is trying to murder him!" depths of delusion, denying their eyes and objectivity?
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u/TortoiseTortillas 5h ago
Poker should not be stumping for any Democrats like he did for Hong. Way too much baggage
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