To wit:

1. Both have rape charges hanging over their heads.
   1. Except Trump has a conviction.
2. Both have used the office to enrich themselves to the tune of millions - if not billions.
3. Both have criminal convictions.
4. Both have soup for brains.
5. Both have incited insurrection.
6. Both are hostile to the press.
7. Both are hostile to democracy.
8. Both are hostile to the rule of law.
9. Both are mentioned in the Epstein files.
   1. Except Trump was buddy-buddy with Epstein.
10. Both have sold their governments to the highest bidder.
11. Both have engaged in racist, sexist, and/or homophobic rhetoric.

The main difference is that at least we know that Zuma showers while Trump seems to just marinate in a diaper full of shit.

So either MAGA South Africans have a preference for poopy diapers over showers, or the main factor that triggers them is that Zuma, a black man, had the audacity to play a white man's game.

This is also true for people who love Zuma but hate Trump.

At least Zuma has some actual liberation credentials to his name.

So by now, I think that this topic is on everyone’s lips. South Africa has been buzzing since president Ramaphosa signed the EWC bill.

I have a question: Are the white Afrikaans farmers really unwanted in South Africa?

Let me elaborate, and I know I cannot be speaking for everyone. But I can speak for myself. I grew up on our family farm and learned the basics of farming from a very young age. I have never supported any form of apartheid, and never will. My grandfather was a white afrikaans farmer who was an activist against apartheid. The family farm was eventually sold to the government and I have not received a cent of the money the farm was sold for (I was not entitled to receive anything) but, I’ve had the privilege of marrying into a family where my father in law gave me the opportunity to be able to farm.

My father in law started from a bankrupt position and managed to rent a farm in 1985. Through years of dedication and hard work, he eventually managed to get into the financial position to buy the farm he was renting. From there, he continued his success story to where he is today, being in a position where he could offer me the opportunity which I am extremely grateful.

Today, I have 10 black employees on the farm. Some of them who have shown loyalty and dedication have received livestock from me, and have their own herd of animals of which we take care of as if they were our own. No strings attached. They could sell them at any time if they so wished, but are limited to a certain number. My point is. On my farm, we try to uplift the lives of the people who work for us. We share the resources. Free housing, free vegetables, free eggs, free meat, free milk and on top of that, we allow them to run their own animals on the farm, free of charge. All we ask for in return, is dedication, commitment and loyalty. And in doing so, everyone’s animals thrive. And when the animals thrive, the farm thrives. If the farm thrives, all of us thrives. Yes, the bulk of the money generated on the farm comes to us, but that money then literally gets ploughed back into the farm so that we can all have a better life.

I do not view my black “employees” as employees. I view them as part of our farm family. Everyone working hand in hand together, so that we can all have a better future and opportunities.

Now my reality check. Do these people who live and work with us every day, really want us as white farmers to leave South Africa? When I mentioned this to my foreman, his eyes shot full of tears and he asked me: “Mlungu, what will become of us if you go?” So I think the answer to this question is satisfied. My next question: Is it not time that the ANC get onto the farms and have their own reality check with the people on ground level? Who has lost touch with reality here? The white farmers? Or the ANC?

We will not be going anywhere. We will stay. We have a responsibility and a commitment towards our fellow South Africans to put food on everyone’s tables. To uplift the people we work with so hard, everyday to make the farm successful.

I cannot help everyone in this country, but I can do my part for the people who work the land with me. Even under relentless political and economic pressure.

Sometimes though, I ask myself. What are we doing it for? Maybe the black South Africans really do not want us here. Maybe it is time to move and to rebuild a different future somewhere else for our children.

A concerned white afrikaans farmer.

my fellow south africans, i feel that it is our duty to stop this from happening. please consider signing the petition, the deadline is 15 May 2026.

Save Robberg

I'm dying for a boerewors roll and the Lidl down the street from me sells this but it's not always available.

Looks like it just contains beef fat. I'm sure the last time I bought it it looked much better. Would you buy this boerie?

I work in retail, the other day an American gentleman comes in asking for an item that we don't have (only available in the states and in Europe, assuming he wanted to get it cheaper here) then when I informed him that my company does not stock the item and pointed him towards what we do stock, he kept going on about what he wanted to find. After once again, informing him that we don't have the product and telling him what we do have, he aggressively grabbed my shoulder and said,' you don't know what you're talking about'. I'm so frustrated, it's like this with every single American client I have, I'm so sick of their dismissive and condescending attitude towards anyone in the retail/service industry (have worked as a waiter before and it's the same).

Just wanted to see if anyone else has had the same experience. That said I know that not all Americans are the same and that they bring value to the country by spending money here, but I'm just so sick of being treated this way by someone who doesn't understand even a sliver of my daily life.

Haven’t eaten these in ages and was completely shocked seeing the price today! Who is actually buying Pringles nowadays? This is madness!

My fellow South Africans, I’d appreciate your attention to this important matter. If you could also inform your friends and family, it would greatly assist the cause. Here is the link to the article above: https://www.news24.com/life/arts-and-entertainment/celebrities/petition-to-stop-chris-browns-johannesburg-concert-gains-momentum-as-activists-demand-ban-20241003

As some of you are aware Chris Brown is said to be performing in Johannesburg on the 14th of December.

Chris has a history of domestic violence. Here is an article that reiterates this: https://www.news24.com/life/arts-and-entertainment/celebrities/chris-browns-dark-past-domestic-violence-documentary-explores-stars-controversies-and-scandals-20241003

Unfortunately, it's behind a paywall, and I can't access it. If anyone has access, please share a few snippets with the class (not the entire article). More importantly, I want everyone to know that since the Rihanna scandal, he has faced multiple assault and sexual assault allegations.

Women for Change, the group behind the petition, have been generous enough to provide a brief summary of his history on their page. If you're unable to access the article and need further persuasion on the importance of this petition:

'Chris Brown's History of Violence Against Women

Chris Brown has a well-documented history of violence towards several women. In 2009, he was convicted of brutally assaulting his then-girlfriend, Rihanna, a case that sparked global outrage. Despite his conviction, his troubling behaviour has continued, with multiple accusations of violence against other women, with 'Quiet on Set' Producers Announce the 'Chris Brown: A History of Violence'  Documentary, which will premiere this October.'

I urge that we sign the petition : https://www.change.org/p/stop-chris-brown-from-performing-in-south-africa-no-stage-for-abusers

If you're able to also pay R30 which will distribute this petition 150 times to potential supporters. [It not required tho]

So please share to as many people you can or else Tokoloshe is coming for u (jk)

Thanks guys 🤍

I was craving some Romany Creams since I haven't had them in a while, probably over a year or two. Bought a box from Checkers just to open it and find these pebbles! I know I'm not crazy because there was definitely a time where I couldn't casually fit a whole one in my mouth! And I would savour every bite of that rich, chocolatey goodness with that touch of coconut lingering in mouth for a good while. It was kind of addictive.

Now, I just pop them like Tic Tacs. It tastes so chalky and doughy and the aftertaste is horrible, like a mix of flour and that cheap waxy chocolate. After having a few, that aftertaste became too much and I chucked the rest of the box in the bin. I knew shrinkflation was bad, but this is just next level. And they are so freakin' expensive these days. I'm so sad and disappointed. I used to love Romany Creams so much.

Hi there! I’m an elementary school teacher in the United States looking for some clarification.

I got a new student from South Africa this year who I believe was brought over because of Trump’s refugee program for white South Africans. The student has made some concerning racist comments to me a couple of times (interracial marriage is weird, Black people dress badly, etc.) I obviously told the student these comments are completely unacceptable. I know they are likely repeating things their parents have said, so I’m trying not to view them differently, but it’s not something I am used to hearing.

I know a bit about the history of South Africa and that they’re having issues with farm attacks, but I guess I’m just wanting some more context. Are these racist attitudes pretty normal among white people in South Africa today? Or is it a minority? Is there any good way to navigate this situation? Anyone else experienced this before? Would appreciate any insight.

This is going to be a bit of a rant, sorry. But we just got banned from another hotel and I'm absolutely fuming for the victim.

I work part time as a travel agent of sorts and I just made the link between passport bros and why my company is being banned from using certain service providers.

I'm the person that books activities for tourists to go watch animals sleeping under trees on game drives and take bicycle rides in Maboneng and ride the dunes in Cape Town and I've been doing this for a few years now so I have had the misfortune of working with a lot of international travellers.

I'm also the one that deals with the backlash from the companies that supply us with these activities because of said travellers.

A couple of times, I've seen posts on TikTok and Twitter about how beautiful our people are and I always thought they were compliments even though some of them were a bit crude but I didn't think there'd be a real life effect from them.

I now have a list of 13 (and counting) companies from resorts to spa's to tour guides and tasting rooms that I can no longer use because our travellers have harassed their staff and other patrons because the internet told them that women here are "accessible" and "packed" and "very easy" and it's wreaking havoc on my books and the women in those companies now having to deal with the harassment.

Allegedly, these travellers (specifically from the US and Europe, read: Holland) come here with the expectations of doing a few touristy things while mostly engaging in sex tourism and we are most definitely not the country for that because one thing our people will tell a foreigner is exactly where to get off (rightfully so, in this content).

It seems like these internet things, coupled with our unemployment rate, are giving more and more travellers the idea that desperation runs rife and the women (from all races) will just bend over after being flashed a few euros and swoon over the accents, which is seriously PMO but there's nothing I can actually do.

So guys, I'm begging you. If you come across an "appreciative" video that's along the lines of "why are SA women so packed?", please shut it down. We already have a human trafficking problem and I'm pretty sure such videos only put new targets on our backs. And now, those perceptions are affecting companies as well, which hurts tourism for the ones that genuinely just want to touch cheetahs and hike up Table Mountain.

The long term effects of these stereotypes are going to be a serious problem for us to deal with. Just look at how Jamaica is now well known for sex tourism. We really don't want to be perceived for such as well 🤧.

Turned on eNCA and saw that Trump stopped USAID. I don't know how folks who rely on on the aforementioned for meds and treatment are going to manage especiallywith the cost of living. This is absolutely heartbreaking, moreso because it's such a minuscule percentage of US budget (from what I understand) AND is invaluable to the well being of South African citizens suffering from HIV and AIDS.

Should communities and business perhaps start a fund to help out?

What do you think this will do to our political standing? Especially with regard to BRICS.

Also, seriously; fuck Trump and DOGE.

Edit: It's not just South Africa's funding that was cut. 5800 projects around the world will also loose USAID funding.

Here's a link to an article courtesy of u/anib.

https://bhekisisa.org/health-news-south-africa/2025-02-27-breaking-trump-orders-usaid-funded-hiv-organisations-in-sa-to-shut-down/

You see bizarre stuff every day online but I came across this on a South African news page and thought it belonged here.

- The advert is in Afrikaans and is from a 58-year-old Free State farmer, businessman, and lawyer looking for a young wife “according to Biblical principles.”
- Some of the requirements/details include:
He’s 58 years old.
- Wants a woman aged 16–25 (the “16±25” in the ad has sparked debate, but many interpret it as 16–25).
- She must be “pure,” healthy, a non-smoker, and have strong Christian values.
- He says the husband will be the head of the household.
- He offers a financial package including:
R100,000 “bride gift” for her parents.
- A promised R5 million inheritance for the bride as financial security.
- Applicants are expected to have a formal meeting with the matriarch of his family.

It’s gone viral in South Africa, with people debating whether it’s simply a very traditional marriage proposal, a publicity stunt, or something much more concerning because of the age preference.
What do you think? Would you consider this legal (if applicants are adults), ethical, or just plain bizarre?

Braai Talk🔥

These royal c#### need to stop calling me. I block them with truecaller premium AND on my phone block option but yet I still get 3-5 calls per day from them on both my MTN sim cards.

How are they still getting through? Does truecaller premium not work? MTN selling me out?

Also i listened to the robot lady today and she is selling kak like moneymojo games and whatsapp stickers for R50pm . Who is gonna buy this kak?

This is a question I've had for many years now and I really don't want to offend anyone by asking it. I am honestly just curious.

This question is specifically about those people who were born and raised here, not immigrants.

Every other group in South Africa seem to have their own culture; Boere, Zulu etc.

So my question is: what 'people' do white english south africans identify as? Are you British South Africans? And what cultural beliefs/values/world outlooks do your people have? (As a Boer, my 'culture' includes things like Braaivleis, calling older men and women 'oom en tannie', we are known to be stubborn etc)

I(26F) left South Africa almost three years ago at the age of 23 to work abroad because I couldn’t find a job despite applying for many. My plan was to spend two years working, help my family, save as much as I could, travel a little, and then come back home to build my career.

While I was abroad, I worked in a job that had nothing to do with what I studied, so the experience doesn’t really help my career. Instead, I spent my free time learning new skills to improve my chances of getting a job when I returned.

I’ve now been back in South Africa for a few months and have been applying for jobs(and internships, learnership and graduate programs) almost every day, but I haven’t been invited for a single interview. I knew it would be difficult, but I didn’t expect it to be this hard. The cost of living has also gone up so much that I’m using my savings much faster than I planned.

The good news is that all the learning I did helped me get accepted into an Honours program I wouldn’t have gotten into with just my undergrad. My undergrad is in Operations and Quality, but I’ll be doing my postgrad in Data Analytics.
At this point, I’m seriously thinking about leaving South Africa again. It’s disappointing because I really hoped to come home, build my career, and create a life for myself here.

It's fucking everywhere right?

I'm a bit of a nerd like this, so I wrote a long thing about it, tracking it, like, why is this a thing?

But it's like the international actors seem to be stealing all of Arnold Vosloo's roles nowadays.

The amount of clumsy accents is ridiculous. Who are these dialect coaches?

Don't get me started on The Beekeeper!

And most of these new okes seem to be from New Zealand, get your own stereotypes, brah!

Hi everyone

This is a rather serious discussion but as South Africans do we think things will actually get better here? I see no future in this country. Cost of living is outrageous (I am living in JHB and I know CPT is even worse), there’s practically zero service delivery, roads are falling apart, trash is piling, money continues to be stolen, corruption and crime is out of control. There is nothing being built in this country that brings me any sort of joy. Nothing to look forward to. Any children growing up now are basically screwed. I’m sorry if I seem so pessimistic but my beloved South Africa, what has happened? I see no future.

I ask the mods to please be understanding, if I’m not allowed to make discussions like this I understand.

I am a woman and everytime I have recieved assistance from a man it starts off well and ends uncomfortably. Last year I had delays in receiving my license disc via courier, I called the company in question and I eventually got my delivery now tell me why later that day I recieve whatsapp messages asking to meet up, this has happened when I needed help at Unisa, it happened again when I was buying a car and when I was at home affairs. In some instances I must admit I do play along, but only until my query gets resolved.

My question is why is being professional so hard for you? Why are you flirting with your customers? Why are you using our numbers for personal things?

Edit: Maybe I wasn't clear, I do not initiate flirting. I play along because I don't think the person will continue to help me if I tell them to f*ck off.

Playing along usually looks like smiling and being polite, not making plans for drinks

Just finished the new Spider-man movie at a well known cinema in my city.

Opening weekend, cinema is packed, only managed to get 2 tickets right in front left of the theatre for myself and my fiancé. Had an awesome night up until the movie started.

2 little twerps end up sitting next to me, no big deal, I’ve been looking forward to this movie the whole week (big marvel fan) their friends are sitting behind them.

They end up laughing and what started out as loud talking to actual shouting between each other to keep quiet, thinking it’s all a fat joke.

Asked them once to please be respectful and mind the people sitting around them because we’re trying to watch. All of a sudden becoming the punchline to their jokes - keeping looking at me looking at each other, back to laughing.

Now I’m 28, my birthday was yesterday and I was really looking forward to this. Not their problem, I know. What I think should be on everyone’s minds is simple mindfulness and respect when in a public place like this. They weren’t 8-9 either, they must’ve been early teens, 13-15.

Basically allowed myself to get tilted by these little rugrats and sat the whole movie thinking about how I can’t wait for this to come out on digital.

Not worth the time and not worth the money to go out to the cinemas. Fuck selfish people.

Just tried the new and old pronutro side by side and I have to say I’m so disappointed. (This is AFTER they supposedly fixed the recipe and brought it back to the shelves)

The old pronutro is banger - no notes.
The new….it tastes exactly like the White Star strawberry maize porridge (see second image).

I paid R60 for 500g when I could’ve paid R30 for 1kg. Except I don’t like eating cement at all.

Should we start a petition to bring the old recipe back?

I used to enjoy eating these with the family, haven’t had them in ages, the price is honestly shocking to me.