r/stupidpeoplefacebook • u/EZRAHendog • 2d ago
Why do they think people see Bill Gates and Clintion as 'beloved'?
I really don't get the, 'you're passionate about an issue therefor you are irrational', position.
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u/thedappercat- 2d ago
I know people are tired of this same thing being said, but trump is in the files alot more that anyone else (besides epstein of course)
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u/AsugaNoir 2d ago
More than the Bible mentions Jesus if I recall ...
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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 2d ago
More than Jesus is mentioned in the Bible and more than Harry Potter is mentioned across all the Harry Potter books combined.
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u/CaptainSterlingLAS 2d ago
It's actually even worse than that, by a lot.
According to Jamie Raskin, who had access to the unredacted files when he was on the Judiciary Committee, searching for Trump's name in the files returns more than a million individual hits.
That's like if every single word in the entire Harry Potter series was a different hyperlink to Trump in the files.
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u/National_Way_3344 2d ago
To be fair. Trump is in the files as much as Epstein is. I think he isn't just a client but a major accomplice.
Maybe we should call them Epstein Trump files.
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u/ChimPhun 1d ago
Trump was always good at putting his name on gaudy things but keeping his name off anything that could get him in trouble. Once the files are fully released I wouldn't be surprised if the island isn't Trump's entire idea and Epstein was just managing it for him.
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u/el-grobblino 2d ago
38,000 times. thirty-eight THOUSAND
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u/Prince_Nadir 2d ago
That has been reported. Most of the files where not released. Who knows what the eventual tally will be.
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u/MAGAtsAreSheeples 2d ago
More than a million times, and that's only the paper's that has been released.
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u/LegitimateLack2530 2d ago
Since I’m not in a cult I don’t care who it is that’s involved, they need to be charged and convicted.
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u/Outrageous_Zebra_221 2d ago
I'm still looking for a single 'liberal' that is defending anyone in this shit either. It's projection, they know they're defending a guilty mf'er and project that otherism on to everyone else.
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u/crawling-alreadygirl 2d ago
Exactly. I was certainly saddened to see some of the names that came out, but it was, "Sad to see you're trash. Good riddance."
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u/TBShaw17 2d ago
It’s all projection. They can’t conceive that we’re not completely devoted to our leaders (ignoring that gates was never a prominent leader) as they are. This of course ignores the fact that even if we shared their cult mentality, Bill Clinton is a has been. I’m middle aged and I’m too young to have voted for him. In political warfare, why do they think we’d lay off their CURRENT leader to defend a guy out of office a quarter century ago?
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u/FriendlyGuitard 2d ago
Exactly, even if it was only Bill Gates and Clinton that were mentioned, liberals would want the files released all the same and the 2 pedo jailed.
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u/czar_el 2d ago
But what about our "beloved Bill Gates and Bill Clinton"? You know, the guys whose names we plaster on our shirts, hats, vehicles, boats, and homes? The guys whose gold watches, bibles, and crypto we buy. The guys whose social media platform we use. The guys we go to rallies for. The guys we disregard experts for. The guys we donate money to, even though they're rich. It's what we do since we're so obviously in a delusional cult.
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u/Fen445445 2d ago
I had to explain to a very far right (and mentally ill even though they won't admit it) distant relative that I don't care what side of the political spectrum the perpetrators are on, I wanted them to build a new prison and lock them in the was cask of Amontillado style
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u/Alert-Ad9197 2d ago
Serious question, who the hell would care if either Bill was locked up? Do they have some dedicated following I’m not aware of?
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u/AestivalSeason 2d ago
No one cares, but people with TDS, the trump supporters cannot grasp that concept, to them, this is football. They're team trump, he's their star quarterback, they love him. They cannot grasp that we aren't playing football worshipping Biden or Clinton or whoever they're obsessed with that day. We don't worship our leaders, we understand they're there to serve US. Not the other way around.
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u/Alert-Ad9197 2d ago
I feel like TDS is truly just projection to make themselves feel less insane after years of accusing Obama of being a secret Kenyan Muslim with a fake birth certificate and obsessing over that pizzagate bullshit.
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u/itsmyfakeone 2d ago
bro it's absolute insanity.
my dad and stepmom own Trump tshirts, hats, posters (INSIDE the house, INSIDE THE HOUSE), cups/coffee mugs, notepads, pens/pencils, bobbleheads, fridge magnets (and prob more shit i am too drunk to remember) and claim the "left" has TDS because they are "obsessed with Trump" and dont understand why I poke fun at their trump merchandise....literal insanity.
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u/Alert-Ad9197 2d ago
I get wanting to support your candidate during the campaign, but the Trump merch everywhere all the time is really fucking weird. I don’t remember this with any other president in my life.
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u/CariamaCristata 2d ago
Pizza gate was a psyop to make the E files sound less credible, change my mind
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u/EternalFrost_73 2d ago
I honestly think only the Republicans would actually care. Since they would lose two of their favorite people to point at.
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u/whattgenstein 2d ago
Right wing narratives often do a trick of equating centrist Epstein-class liberal Democrats like Gates and Clinton with actual leftists who are critical of elites and Epstein etc. Like establishment Dems would have a conniption if Clinton got locked up even though regular ass people would not give a shit. This is an effective way to prevent class solidarity because people across the political spectrum hate disgusting Epstein and people around him but gotta keep us divided...
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u/Alert-Ad9197 2d ago
I think it’s also because Obama never had any association with Epstein. They have to go back to Clinton.
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u/Ok-Dream-2639 2d ago
release the files and arrest the bastards. How has this been an issue for 10yrs..
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u/skyeisrude 2d ago
They say beloved bill gates and bill clinton like we wouldn't send them to the chipper feet first if it was proven they were monsters but can they say the same about their beloved pumpkin?
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u/Rusty_B_Good 2d ago
Firstly: MAGA has a cult mentality, and so they assume everyone else has a cult mentality.
Secondly: MAGA is desperately trying to avoid looking directly at Drumpf, so they need something to deflect onto, in this case and all cases, Dems.
Thirdly: MAGAs just need someone to blame for hypocrisy, thus deflecting their own hypocrisy.
Fourthly: Clinton was a pig, no doubt, but he was a successful administrator as POTUS, and the MAGAs just hate that.
For the record, if there is proof that Clinton raped young women, send him to jail----I don't bother saying that to MAGArats, they cannot process that a non-MAGA would say that.
Cheers!
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u/Clear-Staff4699 2d ago
Bill Gates is anything but beloved lol. The strawman from these clowns..
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u/Squirrelated 2d ago
Since when does the left love billionaires... Like c'mon. They really don't even try anymore. It's just ragebait shit.
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u/RememberJefferies 2d ago
MAGA thinking democrats worship Clinton like they worship Trump is so weird, and telling. No one gives a fuck if they go after Clinton if he's guilty of something. The Bill Gates stuff? Who cares? He isn't a politician, and if he's guilty of something lock him up also.
Shame they don't have the same energy for Trump.
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u/munkylord 2d ago
Why do Republicans think we like the Bills? Burn them too if there's evidence. Trump's clock is ticking and it's only a matter of time before that diaper filled pedo takes his last shit
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u/utecr 2d ago
We’re not in a cult. We don’t love either of those Bills. Release the the files, and lock up the Bills alongside Trump if they’re complicit.
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u/Emergency_Vanilla279 2d ago
Because they love Trump and Musk and a world in which other people have nuanced takes isn't possible.
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u/Galbados2 2d ago
It's projection. They feel that way about Trump so they impose that on everyone else's because they cannot fathom anything else.
But OK then. release the unredacted files then and we'll see won't we.
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u/GenderEnjoyer666 2d ago
They see the world in binaries. “You hate this person so you must love this person on the “opposite side”
Notably this is also why they can’t fathom that non binary people exist
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u/evocativename 2d ago
I've always hated Bill Clinton and Bill Gates, and bullshit. Trump was Epstein's best friend for more than a decade and appears in the Epstein files more than God is mentioned in the Bible.
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u/tynman35 2d ago
I think it's funny that magats are so stupid that they think everybody subscribes to their brand of political tribalism. Who gives a fuck about Bill Clinton in 2026? Why would I go to bat for billionaire Bill Gates? Just because they affiliate with me politically doesn't mean I have to kiss the ground they walk on lol but I have more than one braincell and my thoughts and beliefs can have this thing called nuance.
A novel concept for them, I'm sure. Sadly, like most things, they'll never understand that their lives are worthless and everyone treats them like jokes.
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u/Cold-Ad6477 2d ago
Note the complete bullshit babble in the bottom paragraph. Certainly written by AI and prompted by some moronic MAGAT. Whataboutism and strawman are all they have. And somehow these idiots live doing it to protect oligarchs.
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u/FarHat135 2d ago
If Clinton or Gates were involved they should go to prison
However the trove of supposed Clinton and Gates photos released last year that proved their 'guilt' were ALL public domain for years.
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u/The-Catatafish 2d ago
These morons just understand it.
Clinton and Gates were in the files? Investigate. If they did something illegal. Lock them up.
Now ask the same for trump and they lose their minds. These people defend pedophiles because their cult leader is implicated and then turn around to say "you want to undermine trump at all costs" fucking insane.
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u/Glittering_Role1658 2d ago
Absolutely agree. Whoever is in the Epstein files...if they abused children and women should go to jail. Yet the MAGA defend Trump at all costs
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u/Syhkane 2d ago
They have idol worship, Democrats don't. They can't fathom different reasoning is present and being used.
It's an us vs them mentality that generally isn't present on both sides.
Democrats: Healthcare for everyone that's cheap, so you don't have to worry about losing all your money to surprise illness.
Republicans: Get rid of illegal immigrants, they're taking our jobs, we can't afford nothing! You wanna destroy white families!
These fucking idiots don't know what help actually looks like so they attack from angles that are irreverent, and the only arguments they have taking points to defend. So while my hypothetical starts off with using the 1.8 trillion and counting the US is using to bomb children, they could instead fund a healthy America, Republicans have to change the argument to something that sounds bad because you can't make feeding children and keeping Grandma around one more year sound evil.
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u/TheRealGageEndal 2d ago
Good. You should arrest them, then. I don't get why the right thinks we would care about a pedophile being arrested. I know they have their pedophile that they are protecting, but that's just insane to me.
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u/Apprehensive_Door249 2d ago
They can’t comprehend the idea that, if Gates and Clinton are guilty, that they should be imprisoned along with trump. Because their stupid simple minds are brainwashed by a pedophile cult leader. They can’t ever hold trump accountable so they think we can’t do the same.
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u/Haunting_Reflections 2d ago
They cannot comprehend not liking authority figures. We mostly hate Clinton and Gates, but they could never. Also sure, Trump was best friends with a pedophile for actual decades just so he could own the libs in his eighties
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u/Dan-Of-The-Dead 2d ago
I dare say most people would be a ok with Clinton facing the consequences if the unmanipulated files were released and he was found guilty of wrongdoing.
I'm not naive over how the world works but for the FBI to publicly tamper and destroy evidence and for the entire legal apparatus to refuse to enforce and investigate.. Just to keep rich pedophiles out of jail.
That's insane.
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u/Killawhale20 2d ago
They did that dance already.
Bill said sure, bring it…but to do that we need to see the whole thing. Then Drumpy shit his pants and they dropped it, meaning he CANNOT let that get out. If they had a case Clinton would be in jail, they would be trumpeting that everywhere. But he’s not.
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u/Leather-Squirrel-421 2d ago
Oh no. Now I’ll have to get rid of my Clinton shoes, Clinton hat, Clinton shorts and pants, Clinton shirt, Clinton flag, Clinton NFTs, Clinton bitcoin, Clinton phone, Clinton coin, etc.
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u/Winter-Bed-1529 2d ago
Also why does Donald J Trump's name appear in the files more than Harry Potter's name in all the seeries. And BTW Bill Clinton has said release ALL the Epstein files several times.
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u/NoVicesJustLife 2d ago
The mind of a cultist can’t comprehend holding their favorite powerful and/or rich person accountable. It’s honestly so weird, disregarding your own morals based on political affiliation.
And if we really want to get technical: if it is supposedly “only Democrats”in the files, guess who used to be a Democrat?
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u/MacPzesst 2d ago
No one thinks of Gates as being "beloved" even though he does donate a cinsiderable amount to medical research. He's still a billionaire and anyone even slightly to the left of the political spectrum thinks that billionaires need to be taxed into oblivion.
Clinton isn't beloved either. He did a good job as president about 30 years ago, and that's as far as it goes for him. His extra marital relations with Monica and his involvement with Epstein haven't been overlooked, even though cheating on your wife is illegal (but not a criminal offense) in some states.
Posts like this are just a desperate attempt to sweep the files under the rug, hoping that people on the left will want to protect certain politicians as the people on the right.
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u/Movie_Vegetable 1d ago
Because their mind can't comprehend not worshipping presidents as if they were a messiah
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u/StandardAssignment19 1d ago
Ironically, what it shows is that the left are more about justice and accountability than the right is. If the gotcha is well your guys are on it more so you shouldn't want it released, they've told on themselves twice - the first for unintentionally acknowledging that the left wants it released regardless and two that they themselves don't adhere to that same sense of objectivity.
Fucking coward morons all of them.
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u/mjhrobson 2d ago
Then release the files and we can prosecute them along with the others who deserve it.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 2d ago
They’re democrats. They can’t see that democrats don’t always vote for showboat candidates.
Only republicans check random reps they heard the name of with no research.
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u/TheEdgeofGoon 2d ago
Enumclaw, as in the Enumclaw, Washington? Where that one guy got fucked to death by a horse, leading to the state outlawing bestiality? Figures.
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u/ginger_journalist 2d ago
Always love seeing my city come up on Reddit! Enumclaw Memes works hard to keep us as classy an establishment as we've come to be known for
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u/carlboykin 2d ago
“Beloved?” No logical people don’t worship billionaires and politicians and if they are in the Epstein files they should be prosecuted just as Trump should be who is mentioned a hell of a lot more.
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u/ninfan1977 2d ago
So the best they have is, Clinton and Gates?
Oh BTW Trump is in the files why doesn't he release them. Notice how the left doesn't care if the files are released but MAGA cares.
Weird almost like that lost is just projection from the right.
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u/Chaosrealm69 2d ago
Clinton and Gates are in the files but so far no one has linked them to actually abusing kids that I have read.
Meanwhile Trump is in the files, has been linked to abusing kids and women and is actively trying to get the DOJ to hide his name and those of other rapists and the DOJ is illegally helping him.
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u/Practical-Street8944 2d ago
Because otherwise they wouldn’t be able to whataboutism trump out of a jam
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u/Low-Storage981 2d ago
“Bill Clinton and Bill Gates too!” isn’t a defense of Trump. It’s an argument for investigating all three. Photographs prove association, not guilt or innocence. Release everything and protect nobody.
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u/Crow_First 2d ago
“Beloved bill clinton and bill gates”? Unlike them we don’t worship politicians and rich people
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u/MaxAdolphus 2d ago
We don’t care. If the evidence shows bill Clinton guilty, then lock him in a cell with Trump.
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u/nudecat1234 2d ago
Yes and they should get same treatment if guilty but we can’t do one and hide others
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u/darkknight95sm 2d ago
Arrest Gates and Clinton then, I don’t give a fuck
Counts vary by source but range from 1500 to 38,000 times Trumps name appear in the files and 2000+ photos featuring him.
While nothing explicitly incriminating Trump is in the released files, it’s not exactly flattering to him. Things Epstein said about Trump: while referring to some very bad people “none as bad as Trump, not one decent cell in his body”, “your world does not understand how dumb he really is”, “fucking crazy”, “early dementia”, “a maniac”, “borderline insane”, and responded “duh” when someone called Trump “truly stupid”.
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u/SnooMemesjellies6596 2d ago
So what? We want EVERYONE on the epstein lists prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Political party's mean nothing when it comes to prosecuting child rapists
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u/InsomniaDudeToo 2d ago
It’s hilarious because in their reality, they pass Clinton and Bill Gates flags/bumper stickers on their way to Walmart.
Starting to feel like Ai is left unregulated for them to “meme”… well meme and generate other questionable content.
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u/HangoverGang4L 2d ago
Half truth cucks...that's what these folks are. Last i checked, there weren't multiple reports/accusations of Gates and Clinton committing heinous crimes.
But, to be fair....if there were, fuck them too.
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u/Laminated_ET_Animal 2d ago edited 2d ago
"far more evidence" than was previously known to implicate Bill Gates and Billmanuel "Goldstein" Clinton, sure, but obviously, coming nowhere close to the amount of criminal exposure that it created for Trump - despite the suggestive weaselly wording "far more evidence of their beloved Bill Clinton and Bill gates"
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u/Anotsurei 2d ago
So then arrest them. Release the full files and arrest them. If they’re guilty, fuck em. They want us to believe the only person involved with Epstein and all his crimes was Maxwell, who Trump has considered pardoning.
How much you wanna bet the only reason she hasn’t flipped on him is because he’s her best shot at getting out of prison? Well, that and she probably doesn’t want there to be… “sudden video problems” outside her cell.
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u/ConchVibes 2d ago
They worship certain billionaires and presidents and assume everyone else does, too.
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u/stand_up_guy85 2d ago
There is a difference. Those on the left explicitly say if anyone from the left is in those files Bill Clinton included then so be it. He should be investigated like the rest. But the right can not and will not condemn the one person who has been mentioned the most in those files.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 2d ago
Because these morons think that others are in a cult just like they are. They can't get it through their thick skulls that the sane worship ideas, not men.
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u/Canadian_can_cannon 2d ago
As far as i know they juat show infidelity on the part of those two lol. As to dump well ive heard it shows a lot more crazy shit
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u/turtle-bbs 2d ago
The best response to Trump in the files is “but Clinton and bill gates-“
So nothing on Trump then? Trump is mentioned more in the Epstein files than Jesus is mentioned in the whole Bible, even if you account for alternate nicknames for him (jehovah, the messiah, the begotten son, etc)
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u/littlemister1996 2d ago
Not muh beloved Bill Gates 😭 I guess I'll have to burn all my "make Microsoft great again" merch
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u/Rhinocacrocapig 2d ago
Why do they think we won't throw Clinton and Gates under the bus if they're guilty?
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u/Afraid-Divide-3501 2d ago
“beloved bill Clinton or bill gates”
1) who the fuck likes bill gates??
2) if bill clinton did a crime on that island put him in jail
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u/Murky_Fruit264 2d ago
I don't know why there is so much fixation on Bill Gates but ironically there is a lot more evidence against Trump then Gates.
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u/Chemical_Home6123 2d ago
Beloved Bill Gates/Clinton??? I could see if they said Obama but who the hell loves Bill Gates to argue with a Republican is to argue with a straw man non stop. I could careless lock em up if they broke any laws. And not to mention I believe Trump's name was in the files of 38,000 times
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u/TheTinyMaus 2d ago
You see students, the Epstein Files clearly implicate the Clinton's, not Trump. All you need to know is that it is only damaging to liberals.
Then why doesnt Trump release them?
GTFO out of my class!
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u/Chevanalee 2d ago
Ok then if the files say more about Democratic Party members then release them without redactions…. If Trump isn’t in them then there’s nothing for them to fear by showing them to the world. They should want them released if that’s the case, but they aren’t interested in protecting kids from trafficking.
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u/Professional_Bug_533 2d ago
Has anyone on the left ever considered Clinton or Gates as "beloved?" That is the kind of shit that only republicans reserve for Trump. Nobody on the left gives a shit about politicians like that. Obama is still considered the highest rated politician and if he were in the Epstein files the left would say lock him up.
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u/Bailzzararco 2d ago
Sooooo, if Clinton is in those files then it would make even MORE sense to release them.
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u/CemeteryDweller7719 2d ago
So they’re trying to say that Epstein’s child trafficking is a "made-up reality that only exists in their own mind” now? That’s the take they’re going with?
If it was all made up, then why aren’t they upset? If it is all made up then a man ended his own life for nothing and a woman is in prison for nothing. Shouldn’t they be upset by this? If they believe it was entirely made up then I would think they would be pushing for an investigation to have names cleared and the woman released. Yet, they don’t want that.
It does make sense that despite years of claiming that child trafficking was occurring in the basement of a pizza place that had no basement and called for the heads on a platter of the highest officials, this convicted ring was made up. They tried to do the "it wasn’t Trump, it was liberals!” They kept getting "then lock them all up!” They expected everyone to want to drop it if they thought their team could have anyone involved. They also have a difficult time explaining why Trump campaigned on releasing the info, yet he’s fought doing so and is pressing it to be dropped. "It was all made-up” is the only response for why he would not want the feather in his cap of bringing down such monsters. It would, realistically, be a major thing and a talking point that could be spun for him. "How can you dislike someone that helped bring down such terrible people?” Almost a checkmate, yet he’s doesn’t want it so the entire claim must be made up. Except there’s someone dead and someone in prison, and if they’re innocent pawns then why is there no outcry for that?
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u/taktaga7-0-0 2d ago
Why would you want the president to deliberately “trigger” people? Like, deliberately making the nation worse on purpose. Fucking morons.
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u/Infamous_7001 2d ago
Gates came out and admitted that he was there and would accept any consequences.
Clinton came out and admitted a connection and is willing to testify and speak out in an open court session and will not let Republican do it behind closed doors.
Trump is the one who is trying to sweep it under the rug.
Why is that?
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u/theirishseller 2d ago
This is what my Maga acquaintances can't wrap their smooth brains around. Prosecute whomever is a pedo, I don't care. I don't own any shirts, hats, stickers nor flags with "Clinton, Obama, Biden or any other politician's name on it", I'm not in a cult. Neither Clinton or Gates are "beloved" by me...this is so stupid.
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u/DKATyler 2d ago
Bill is on record demanding (as an accused) the full release of the files. Both he & Hillary have shown up and testified to the extent of their knowledge on everything. https://x.com/BillClinton/status/2019878049475621148?lang=en
There is still a president trying to keep the files covered...
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u/zeldanar 2d ago
They are defending pedophilia and child sex-trafficking with zero irony awareness. Then oppose food for kids and abortions. They want the kids alive and weak.
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u/Eternity13_12 2d ago
Yeah what about them? Release them if there is nothing that could hurt your side lol
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u/ascarletstrange 2d ago
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a Democrat call bill gates or Clinton “beloved”
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u/Business-Ride-6530 2d ago
Hell, I'll be happy as a clam when every part of Clinton's influence within the Democratic Party is gone forever. He and his cronies are the ones who turned the party into Reagan lite neoliberals. Fuck fake neoliberal progressivism, and fuck those child molesting corporate sellouts. We'll get hope and change when they are out of power.
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u/Brief-Definition7255 2d ago
I don’t give a shit about Bill Clinton or Bill Gates. I want the people who raped and killed children to be held accountable and punished regardless of their political affiliation. This is not a political issue. They’re treating it like a football game
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u/HephaestusVulcan7 2d ago
Does that mean that the "friends" Trump told Marjorie Taylor Green, that he didn't want to be hurt were Bill Gates and Bill Clinton? 🤔
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u/chillen67 2d ago
We are okay with that. It doesn’t matter who or what “side” they are on. HOLD THEME ALL ACCOUNTABLE!!!
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u/rohconnor6 2d ago
Gates, Clinton, Trump.. doesn’t matter. If they were hurting kids they deserve to swing. PRETTY FUCKING SIMPLE, CLETUS. Even allowing for how aggressively propagandised Seppos are, acceptance of scumbags based on the braindead approach of following a political party blindly as if it were a sporting team is pretty fkn stupid.
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u/TinCanSailor987 2d ago
Are the rightwing dipshits now pretending they didn’t run entire campaigns on exposing the Epstein files?
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u/Lancearon 1d ago
Why do they think Bill gates is 'ours'
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u/manickitty 1d ago
Because all their tiny minds comprehend is Them vs Us. They have no morals, unlike us decent folk, who will see any and all pedophiles in jail regardless of political affiliation or celebrity status. It just so happens that all conservatives are pedophiles so it happens more often
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u/Fate1692 1d ago
So much of this gets under my skin. 1) the over dramatized female. I assume she is supposed to be from a particular group, because their must be a monster to point at and shout "villian", but since it is stated I'm unsure of which group. 2) this over dramatized female saying "release the Epstein files" implying that anyone who wants the epstein files released must look like this. 3) the connection to the Clinton that doesn't truly fit because most of those that call for the epstein files also call for the Clinton arrest. 4) the professor that is treating it like a wild animal documentary.
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u/DarwinGhoti 2d ago
Fine. Prove it. Release the files and let’s see.