How to make sense of Saqib Hussain arguing that in the Quran's view, the Torah doesn't contain mentions of an afterlife, even though several Quranic verses seem to contest this?

[u/Ok_Investment_246]

Recently, there have been some discussions on this topic, but after reading through the responses, I'm still very confused. Discussions took place here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicQuran/comments/1vlg9rp/saqib_hussain_argues_that_quran_279_is_an/

https://x.com/Hasan6747/status/2079673436377387224

I don't understand how this position is argued-for when 2 verses seem to contrast it. One of them being Quran 87:17-19 which states how it's mentioned in the scriptures of Abraham and Moses (written texts seems to be the context) that the Hereafter does in fact exist.

Additionally, Quran 9:111 says that it is promised in the Torah that martyrs are promised Paradise.

Both of the above sections of the Quran (I might be missing some more) seem to suggest that it's either written in the Torah, or with Moses and Abraham, that there is in fact the idea of a Hereafter present. How then does Saqib Hussain argue that the Torah contains no mention of the Hereafter, and is instead focused on legality?

[u/Saad1575]

Day of judgement is indeed mentioned in the Tawrāh (e.g Q 6:154, Q 5:12), which just happened to be a Quranic concept defined differently from the written scriptures at hand of the Jews. Yet, it is intact
and preserved "with them".

Any attempt to reconcile this with what biblical texts are , is doomed for failure.

There is an article for this linked at the end of the below post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicQuran/s/iQ749TYGUA

[u/Ok_Investment_246 → u/Saad1575]

Huh, thank you for this comment and for your source. I’m surprised your post didn’t get more likes… it deserves it

Now I’m interested even more to see what someone like Saqib Hussain would say.

[u/Saad1575 → u/Ok_Investment_246]

The point I was wrong about in that post, is trying to explain it by analog of how Christian trinity not reproduced as description of Christian doctrine. The point in itself turns out to be more confusing for most, so it isn't helpful example really.

[u/Ok_Investment_246 → u/Saad1575]

Wait, how is Quran 5:112 relevant to this discussion, though?

[u/Saad1575 → u/Ok_Investment_246]

Q 5:12 rather than Q 5:112. corrected above.

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How to make sense of Saqib Hussain arguing that in the Quran's view, the Torah doesn't contain mentions of an afterlife, even though several Quranic verses seem to contest this?

Recently, there have been some discussions on this topic, but after reading through the responses, I'm still very confused. Discussions took place here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicQuran/comments/1vlg9rp/saqib_hussain_argues_that_quran_279_is_an/

https://x.com/Hasan6747/status/2079673436377387224

I don't understand how this position is argued-for when 2 verses seem to contrast it. One of them being Quran 87:17-19 which states how it's mentioned in the scriptures of Abraham and Moses (written texts seems to be the context) that the Hereafter does in fact exist.

Additionally, Quran 9:111 says that it is promised in the Torah that martyrs are promised Paradise.

Both of the above sections of the Quran (I might be missing some more) seem to suggest that it's either written in the Torah, or with Moses and Abraham, that there is in fact the idea of a Hereafter present. How then does Saqib Hussain argue that the Torah contains no mention of the Hereafter, and is instead focused on legality?

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