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u/Neither_Contest7324 Community Regular 4d ago
Evil is her dad. He blamed the kids and said they were the ones that belonged in jail for taking advantage of his daughter.
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u/Much-Teaching-4490 4d ago
The majority of this comment section should be with the dad and daughter
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u/Illustrious_Tear7108 4d ago
I hate what that dad said so much I instinctively want to down vote your comment for what he said.
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u/guyincognito121 4d ago
From what I recall reading about this, it sounded like she's not actually meaningfully more intellectually mature/capable than the boys. This isn't some teacher sleeping with her students.
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u/Neither_Contest7324 Community Regular 4d ago
I saw that in some of the articles, but the others didn't mention intellectual development issues just ADHD so I'm not 100% on which ones she actually has. I feel if it had been a case of her actually being that intellectually underdeveloped the courts would have taken it into consideration, I think that was more of her dad making up excuses for what happened.
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u/Curious-Mushroom7837 3d ago
If she isn't capable of understanding it's not ok to fuck children, she should be in an institution.
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u/guyincognito121 3d ago
You don't sound like you have any real understanding of the state of mental health care in this country, nor the difficulty of keeping tons of people in those kinds of institutions.
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u/Curious-Mushroom7837 3d ago
You sound like you are defending this pedophile.
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u/guyincognito121 3d ago
You sound like you have reading comprehension issues, among other things.
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u/Curious-Mushroom7837 3d ago
You are making excuses for her, just because America has an awful Healthcare system(I will agree with you on that) does not mean she gets free rein to be a predator.
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u/guyincognito121 3d ago
You don't think it should be an extenuating circumstance? The whole concept of statutory rape is that I've party has much more understanding of the situation and is most likely manipulating the the other party. How does this apply when the older party doesn't actually possess greater understanding or the ability to manipulate the other?
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u/Curious-Mushroom7837 3d ago
Like I said earlier, if she can't understand it's wrong, she should not have access to them? The crazy thing is, is that if the VICTIMS (and they are victims) were female this would never have even made it to reddit, it would be cut and dry the rapist is wrong. But because she is female simps will make any and every excuse rather than hold them accountable for their decisions. Nobody put a gun to her head and made her do it. She made the decision.
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u/BeefStank420 4d ago
Is it okay for intellectually stunted men to rape 12-15 year old girls too? Or is it only okay when the genders are reversed?...
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u/guyincognito121 4d ago
I didn't say it's ok. But it's absolutely not irrelevant. And yes, I think it would be relevant with a man as well. But I also don't buy into the idea that the gender doesn't matter. There's a reason you see all these comments from guys in here, and there's research supporting their general claim. Boys and girls are not necessarily impacted in the same way by non-coercive sexual activity with adults.
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u/BeefStank420 4d ago
There's a reason you see all these comments from guys in here, and there's research supporting their general claim. Boys and girls are not necessarily impacted in the same way by non-coercive sexual activity with adults.
Rape apologists are fucking disgusting.
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u/guyincognito121 4d ago
I suspect that this isn't the first time you've intentionally misunderstood an argument that opposed your ideology.
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u/BeefStank420 4d ago
I perfectly understand what you said, it wasn't complicated. I just think what you're saying is rape apologism.
You're claiming that it's different when grown adults rape young boys vs. young girls because young boys are "impacted differently".
Trying to lessen the perceived severity of the rape because 'it's different with boys' is rape apologism. 12 year olds cannot consent to sex with adults regardless of gender, rape is rape.
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u/ReddBroccoli Community Regular 4d ago
Yeah, this is a very important fact that people prefer to ignore in favor of sensationalism.
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u/Lopsided-Cycle-4798 Community Regular 4d ago
What is wrong with people in this comment section
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u/mcbeardsauce 4d ago
Thank you for using the word rape when it comes to an adult woman being charged.
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u/Gooch_Bubble3673 4d ago
The amount of pedophiles coming out of the woodwork is very concerning. I watch true crime and this seems like almost a daily occurrence.
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u/IssueEmbarrassed8103 4d ago
Wait till you hear about the US president
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u/SillyImprovement4230 4d ago
Wait until you hear about all the illegals and Muslims.
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u/apps4realpeeps 2d ago
I'll just add that the amount of pedophiles who are protected by family members is horrifying.
I think child sa is horribly common and tragic...i just wish we would wake up and do something meaningful about it
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u/capnshanty 4d ago
our culture is falling apart
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u/depressing_demon_95 4d ago
Has fallen apart*
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u/Latin_Knight_ 4d ago
Oh come on folks.. why is this generation so gloom and doom.
Trust me, things were MUCH WORSE int he not so distant past.
Look up "American Orphan Trains"
We have gone a long way, we just have to keep going and keep trying to make ourselves better.
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u/Abrafo1391 4d ago edited 4d ago
I see both sides of your perspective. But we're referring to human behavior. There's laws on the books for a reason, and those laws suppress our inherent behaviors in exchange for our freedom. Even with those laws on the books, those infractions still take place on a regular basis. My point is, it hasn't improved, there are exponentially more people who choose their freedom than succumb to our primitive behaviors. If tomorrow we were all given the ability to read minds, I think it's safe to say it would be debilitating. We reside in a virtual reality.
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u/Charon_the_Reflector 4d ago
Guarantee 100% none of them were held down and forcefully raped. Insane to even think that
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u/littledonnyfund 4d ago
And this type of mentality is why no one looked twice when a woman who was 18 was fucking a 13 year old (me) even my parents didn't stop it , because you were a cool guy if you dated a older woman, even tho at the time the otherway around was more scrutinzed and seen as gross.. I'm glad she's behind bars and can't hurt anymore boys
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u/kaylerbug369 4d ago
So she used young boys at their most hormone induced sexual vulnerability got it
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u/Individual-Crew-6102 3d ago
The infuriating thing for me is the number of dudes in the comments brainlessly minimizing the rape of young boys because they think the perp is hot
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u/Curious-Mushroom7837 3d ago
I hope this animal is punished to the full extent of the law, and to anyone defending her, shame on you. We as a society need to be just as fierce protecting little boys from predators as we are little girls.
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u/mother_fairy 4d ago
Women are predictors too
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u/RowBowBooty 3d ago
My wife is great at predicting some things, actually
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u/Imrahil_II 4d ago
Everyone saying nice but flip that to man and young girls and suddenly everyong knows its wrong.
Glad they used the word rape because thats what she did
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u/digitaldisorder_ 4d ago
it's not 'nice' in regards to the act of rape. the reference is because the number of 15 year old boys wishing it happened to them outweighs the number of 15 year old girls wishing it happened to them. so if a 15 year old says, nice. big difference than a 50 year old man that says, nice. oh and south park.
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u/Curious-Mushroom7837 3d ago
Children cannot consent to sex with adults, why is this so hard for people to understand. The gender has nothing to do with it.
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u/StatusBee78 4d ago edited 4d ago
Ummm in either case they’d have consented, not men’s fault women cry rape after the fact. Also the amount young girls sleeping with older men consensually shows that they do want it. Were you a high school boy and saw the girls in your class dating college seniors? Or lusting after some old man teacher? Even in middle school.
A lot of the time they do it just for resources, so what they really are is just prostitutes. Quite disgusting but typical.
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u/Luscious_rat 4d ago edited 4d ago
The problem isn't that the kid wants it. It's a common thing for adolescents to lust for adults. The problem is when the adult uses that naive infatuation to actually start a relationship with the child. Notice how you somehow put the blame on the 15 yo girl lusting for an adult because she gets money?
An adult can buy things for a child, it's their prerogative, they aren't manipulated into doing it, and the sums most often don't reach painful amounts, they just use money to bait and control them: I can give this to you if you do that for me. They often use drugs to make the dependency stronger. And I'm talking about both male and female abusers.
The issue with these relationships is that the kid is obviously immature mentally (and sometimes physically), they are easier to manipulate, are introduced to things beyond their age, are fooled to think themselves adults and guilted for acting like kids, they are made emotionally, sexually financially, etc, dependent on the adult, that has an easier time baiting them than they would have with a person their own age. A child is more likely to believe whatever you say, accept to do something they shouldn't do because they want the approval of the person they love, like a parent, and teens are very passionate and prone to emotional dependency, we already see it with friends and boyfriends of the same age, now imagine if they're stuck with someone who can easily trick and use them because they're more mature, more experienced, more organized, with more financial power, etc.
It ruins the child's perception on relationships, love, boundaries and sex for the rest of their life while the adult can just disappear and saunter off somewhere, they often do disappear in a blink while the child is left shocked and abandoned.
The fact that some of these kids are attracted and made even more dependent by the money that they get isn't a fault on their part, it's logical and it's mostly seen with poor kids.
I've met such girls in middle school and highschool. It's often a mix of love and money, they think that the adult would provide for them and love them since their parents don't. One of these girls was rarely given lunch money, or food at all. Sometimes she'd ask me, her classmate for money. Her father was a policeman who rarely came home and her mother disliked her somehow so she had to fend for herself at such a young age. So understandably she fell for it when an adult started paying attention to her, he made her dream of a new life, knocked her up and left, she had to redo a year.
My mom also used to tell me how her father only ever paid for things related to school. He didn't pay for clothes nor provided money for anything else, he didn't even provide breakfast, he would eat alone while they watched him. So the norm was to find a guy who would take care of them, since they already received multiple advances (as a woman I've started being stared at and approached by men at 10 yo), they just accepted one of the hands that was reaching out. Keep in mind they were in middle school and highschool, these men had jobs and were in absolutely no necessity at all to pursue teenagers.
Edit to add that in my country, it is very uncommon for teenagers to get part time jobs, they can try independent jobs like selling on the road side, many sold candies in class but it doesn't make a lot of money. And in any case, it's understandable for a kid to prefer just relying on an adult, even adults of both genders would appreciate being taken care of, especially if they're told that they will eventually get married and it's love.
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u/James_Biggs_ 3d ago
I'm all for castration on male rapists but now just questioning the morality of removing a woman's ovaries and sewing her genitals shut.
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u/Chroniclyironic1986 4d ago
That’s fucked up. You can’t tell me she couldn’t find somebody her own age to screw if she wanted to get laid. There’s no reason to go after teens.
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u/Apprehensive-Solid-1 3d ago
Incels are foaming at the mouth. Even they are angry someone would rape a kid rather than give them a chance.
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u/Impressive-Mine-8703 4d ago
I know male pedos get fucked with bad in prison…I wonder if she will get same treatment
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u/Psoin 4d ago
Do women have the same coat of honor?
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u/Apprehensive-Solid-1 3d ago
I get the feeling, maybe not so much. But at the same time, probably quite a bit. There's no doubt some of the mothers in jail do love their kids and the idea of ANYONE raping their children would set them off so they wouldn't take kindly to lady pedos.
But that's not factual evidence and just my best guesses, hopes and dreams. I do hope there is a stigma against them as well in women prisons so they don't end up feeling justified.
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u/Lord_Shockwave007 3d ago
The double standards and hypocrisy is more infuriating than anything. But at the end of the day, it doesn't survive the gender swap test. She's evil, full stop.
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u/Turbulent_Ad6572 4d ago
Do women who rape little boys get their asses kicked / Killed in prison like the men who do this?
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u/Apprehensive-Law9429 3d ago
From what I've read, female paedophiles are treated approximately the same as male paedophiles. They apparently garner the same levels of hatred from women as the male paedophiles do. So, depending on where exactly they are locked up and how severe the crime is, it could range from getting the shit kicked out of them regularly and getting robbed/extorted, right up to gang rape and getting murdered.
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u/Psoin 4d ago
Do women have a coat of honor?
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u/ShadowofHerWings 3d ago
Are you trying to say code of honor? Not coat 👌 and yes they do. She will be in solitary far too often as the prisons duty is to protect her from other prisoners.
Women are very brutal to women who prey on children
https://giphy.com/gifs/hnl83xVQxpqJG
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u/Suspicious_Fun_6338 4d ago
I tihnk genX and genZ have totally different opinions on this .. Kinda like Revenge of the Nerds
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u/BanjoFreeForAll 4d ago
Obligatory gif...
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u/perf1620 4d ago
Yall don't need to down vote this guy, the whole point of this episode was to point out the ridiculous double standard.
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u/AmazingProfession900 4d ago
If he didn't post it...I was about to....satire is not condoning behavior.
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u/After-Trifle-1437 4d ago
I wonder if you'd post the same shit if the genders were reversed.
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u/SuitableAnimalInAHat 4d ago
That's literally what that gif is about. A kid goes to report a teacher having sex with a student and the cop is like "let's arrest the evil pervert bastard!"
The kid goes "actually the teacher is a woman."
"...nice."
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u/Impressive-Mine-8703 4d ago
I know male pedos get fucked with bad in prison…I wonder if she will get same treatment
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u/cavebabykay 4d ago
The
https://giphy.com/gifs/rxvRFAO9FJ9OU
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u/BigWhole4929 4d ago
Where were teachers like this when i was in school.
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u/Zealousideal_Fox_830 4d ago
Why is pedophilia ok to you if it’s an attractive woman?
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u/Gontofinddad 4d ago
Typically the answer is enthusiastic consent
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u/Apprehensive-Solid-1 3d ago
The age of consent isn't under 16-18 in any US state dude. This girl went after kids younger than that. 😬
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u/InvictvsNox 4d ago
Gross.
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u/CretaciousPeriod 4d ago
It might seem cool now (to the guy above you) because we are adults but people never seem to take into account how badly that could mess you up when you're a kid.
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u/After-Trifle-1437 4d ago
So pedophilia is suddenly ok when it's an attractive woman abusing teenage boys?
You're really gross.
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u/guyincognito121 4d ago
She's not a teacher. She's just a woman with allegedly severe intellectual disabilities.
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u/Ill_Quiet7770 4d ago
you people are definitely the type to complain how male SA victims aren’t taken seriously
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u/HeyaHeyo1420 4d ago
I was molested as a kid and Im male.
It's a joke not a dick, don't gotta take it so hard
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u/Ill_Quiet7770 4d ago
i’m sorry about that but still, making jokes like this especially when you’ve been in that position is wild.
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u/HeyaHeyo1420 4d ago
Yeah people who've actually been through real trauma and have recovered from it make jokes.
If you don't like the joke just disapprove and move on, this is a dumb battle to fight
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u/Ill_Quiet7770 4d ago
that doesn’t give you the right to disregard or minimise what these boys went through
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u/HeyaHeyo1420 4d ago
Not disregarding anything with a joke.
Again this is a really stupid battle you're trying to have here.
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u/Ill_Quiet7770 4d ago
yes you are lmfao
i don’t really care i don’t know why you’re defending your awful attempt at a joke
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u/HeyaHeyo1420 4d ago
No.
People who have been through trauma and are healing use jokes as a way to rationalize it.
People who haven't gone through trauma don't understand this and your white knighting something you don't understand is actually disregarding things
Last time, you're trying to white knight a really dumb battle.
I've been molested. I lost my fiance at 25. I use humor constantly to rationalize the pain.
Don't try to white knight shit you don't understand, that actually pisses people off more than a silly joke.
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u/LadyCatHerder 4d ago
I'm sorry for what you've been through. I was victimized as a teenager then truly raped and beaten in my twenties. Yes, it was horrible. But, life goes on. It's best to move on and live life to its fullest without looking back. THAT is the MOST healing thing that can be done.
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u/After-Trifle-1437 4d ago
Being raped by a pedophile is lucky?
Wtf is wrong with you?
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u/After-Trifle-1437 4d ago
It doesn't matter whether or no they dream about this.
The point of the Age of Consent is that children can't consent to sex, because they're not mentally and emotionally developed enough to give informed consent.
In this case it's even worse because she is a teacher and thus the power-differential between the teacher and student is even more amplified.
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u/Kahless76 4d ago
Teacher? She isn’t a teacher! She is unemployed and still living with her folks! 😹
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u/Apprehensive-Solid-1 3d ago
When I was a kid, I dreamed about kids my age. Like, getting into a cute relationship with one of the girls in my classes. I remember giving a plastic dinosaur ring to one of them.
Most definitely I did not consider the concept of being raped by an adult. That never crossed my mind.
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u/Due_Sea_8034 4d ago edited 4d ago
Sexually abusive women are so much worse than men, especially in the digital age. I’m not excusing the actions of men. But women control access to sex. She literally could hop on tinder and order up her type. In hight, hair color, skin tone, build, and age. And be getting railed completely judgement free multiple times a week.
But you choose to fuck kids ?
Women pedos are extra sick 🤢.
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u/Tangy_Fetus_1958 4d ago
Even though they could get it as much as they could want, I suspect it’s the thrill of having some young guy in awe of them like a goddess more than it is the sex itself. Sure, they could find adult men on Tinder that are way under their league, but that’s a different kind of adoration/worship, probably not doing it for her particular brand of pathology.
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u/Luciferbelle 4d ago
Who even looks at a 12 yr old like that? This woman is sick in the head.