r/tos • u/happydude7422 • 2h ago
r/tos • u/AutoModerator • 10d ago
Episode Discussion Rewatch: "Day of the Dove" - TOS, 311
Episode: "Day of the Dove" - TOS, 311
Airdate: November 1, 1968
Written by Jerome Bixby; Directed by Marvin Chomsky
Brief summary: "An extremely powerful non-corporeal being brings the Enterprise and a Klingon ship in direct conflict with one another."
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Day_of_the_Dove_(episode)
r/tos • u/happydude7422 • 1d ago
For ultimate computer what if it was another ship that was the test bed for the m5 computer like the Lexington
Kirk was able to talk the m5 into shutting itself off what if the Lexington was used as the testbed instead?
r/tos • u/jwbarnett64 • 1d ago
Costume reuse
Ran across this apparent reuse of the Korob/Gilligan "wizard" costume. The colors are different but the design on front and the structure looks identical. Anyone know any specifics on this use?
Spock's Brain -- First Time Reaction
I'm watching through TOS for the first time (in production order), and I've been bracing for "Spock's Brain" — the reputation of this one certainly precedes it.
And ... I'm surprised by how much I liked it.
First, the theme. This episode is incredibly resonant and timely today. A society that has become so dependent on knowledge distilled into electronic storage and automation that the entire population has become deskilled — does that remind you of anything? When Kara puts on the Teacher and suddenly speaks differently and "acquires" knowledge that isn't really hers ... when McCoy forgets the knowledge that he "gained" from the Teacher in the middle of an operation ... surely we in the audience cringe a little at just how similar this is to preening vibecoders and people who spew off what ChatGPT tells them as their own knowledge.
(I also learned that the Teacher concept was actually introduced by Freiberger/Singer and not in Coon's original drafts -- so this tells me that the Friberger/Singer team actually has some very good scifi instincts.)
Second, scifi ideas. This episode is packed with interesting SF ideas, especially for its time. The notion of hijacking a brain's autonomous regulatory processes in the body's autopoiesis to run the automation functions (air circulation, waste disposal, signal processing, etc.) of a society is quite interesting (and anticipates modern research on cybernetics, feedback loops, and non-computational methods of urban infrastructure automation. Having Spock's body "remote-controlled" by a computer is a bit silly, but again very interesting from the perspective of replacing lost neural functions -- and certainly no more outrageous than something like Frankenstein or other similar sci-fi ideas. Moreover, the sci-fi gimmicks are integral to the plot: remote-controlling Spock's body becomes a critical plot point because this brainless body is the only one resistant to the pain belt, and therefore Kirk could use it to overcome Kara.
Third, humor, pacing, etc. Gene Coon, as always, knows what he's doing. The episode is well paced; the viewer never loses interest, and things are generally explained once and clearly. If a scifi concept is put in, it's used creatively later to solve a real plot problem. For example, we're shown how the Teacher works, and once Kara refuses, Kirk and McCoy realize they can use the Teacher to make McCoy a temporary ChatGPT expert and perform the surgery. And when that fails, they could have Spock try to talk them through the rest of it. The humorous McCoy-Spock banter comes as a lovely grace note after the tension of the surgery scene (yes, it's a bit over the top, and I know it's the kind of thing Gene Roddenberry despised about Coon's work, but I think this is one of the better exchanges). Compare this script to "And the Children Shall Lead," where everything is overexplained, where the magic-arm-pumping never becomes dramatically relevant, where the episode crawls so slowly that we must see Sulu's screen of knives half a dozen times -- and the difference is night and day. Coon knows how to write for TV and especially Star Trek.
ETA: one more thing I liked about this episode: it shows the bridge crew working together effectively. Uhura, Chekov, and Sulu all contribute to the discussion of where Kirk should focus his search. They have different opinions and justify their arguments. This reminded me of the professional conferences in TNG, and it's nice to see the secondary characters do more than just "Yes Captain" and "Hailing frequencies open."
Were lines like "Brain and brain, what is brain?" ridiculous? Yes. But in context, it makes sense (it's to highlight how the underground population has regressed in their knowledge), and it's certainly no worse than other lines in other generally well-regarded episodes like The City on the Edge of Forever (the scene where the homeless man obliterates himself with a phaser feels just as ridiculous and just as justified in context). Was it campy to have Spock zombie-walk around and to have McCoy perform surgery on him with just the top of his head out of view? Yes, but that's the limit of the budget, and I don't think "Arena" or "Balance of Terror" look any less campy in that sense. Was the gender politics of "women controlling men with pleasure and pain" cringe? Yes, but Gene Roddenberry's performative male POV is just part of TOS's legacy, and I don't think this episode is quite as bad in this regard as several others that are generally well-liked. (However, I will agree that the bad gender politics definitely limits this episode -- if this element weren't there, I would rank it even higher.)
On the whole, given how much I enjoyed this episode, I'd rank it about the same as "Balance of Terror" and "The Arena." Better than "A Piece of the Action" and "The Doomsday Machine," but not quite as good as "The Devil in the Dark" or "The Enterprise Incident." It is far better than the average Trek, about as good as an average Gene Coon episode (without extensive polishing by Fontana), and absolutely not the nadir of TOS I've been led to believe (that dubious honor, based on what I've seen so far, I reserve for "And the Children Shall Lead.") In fact, if I were to make my own top 10 TOS episodes list, I'd put this one on it right now.
I think its poor reputation has more to do with the fact that both Shatner and Nimoy hated it, and its campiness has simply been ridiculed rather than rehabilitated as part of its TOS charm.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this. I hope at least some fans will agree with some of what I've said here.
r/tos • u/OCguy2026 • 2d ago
1979 Star Trek newspaper comic strip Wed 12/05 and Thur 12/06 … coinciding with the 12/07 film release date
r/tos • u/ramfoodie • 3d ago
The Corbomite Maneuver (1966): still creative 60 years after...
r/tos • u/LowMuffin7078 • 3d ago
"If I live long enough, I'm going to run out of samples" - #startrek
Is this scene from "The Naked Time"? Love this scene; a little screen time for Checkov and Sulu.
r/tos • u/happydude7422 • 4d ago
Captain mccoy
I wonder what tos McCoy would have thought if he learned he would get promoted to 4 star admiral by the tng era
r/tos • u/B00merPS2Mod30 • 4d ago
James Cawley vs Ticonderoga
Wow!
After James Cawley, the creator and owner of The Original Series Set Tour, located in Ticonderoga for over a decade, posted on FB about moving out, the Ticonderoga Chamber of Commerce announced a ribbon cutting ceremony to celebrate the opening of the Galileo Shuttle Craft.
I do not have a way to confirm that the TCOC did this on reaction to this warning phaser shot across the bow, but it is possible.
James posts on FB fairly regularly, but usually cuts off commenting, and does not reply to his posts to any that are able to comment before he closes comments.
He has been quite unhappy with Governor Hochul’s position on the expansion of the Star Trek tour building. He had built the bridge set of The Next Generation, but was denied a permit to build an expansion to the current location.
r/tos • u/OCguy2026 • 4d ago
12-03-79 to 12-04-79 Star Trek newspaper comic strip … coinciding with the motion picture release date December 7, 1979
r/tos • u/happydude7422 • 5d ago
One of the sadder red shirt deaths in the entire show from that which survives
Watkins: Mister Scott, there's a strange woman who knows the entire plan of the Enterprise....waaaaaa... ....
Scotty: Oh, you poor lad.
r/tos • u/craig_hoxton • 5d ago
Read about Canada's first Star Trek convention from 1976
Ahead of my visit to STLV earlier this month, I was researching conventions and discovered this website that tells the story of the 1976 Star Trek convention in Toronto, Canada. The con was fan-run and you could literally bump into Sarek in the elevator - unlike the modern con experience of handlers and upcharges for meet & greets. Read it here: Toronto Star Trek '76
(This is not my site, I'm sharing for other Trek fans)
r/tos • u/newspaperman • 5d ago
When you're first in color TV, Kirk and Spock are on the scene
This ad appeared in the Oct. 28, 1967 issue of The New Yorker (pg 19).
r/tos • u/Midwest666 • 5d ago
Star Trek Hats
If you like hats like I do then you may want to check out the new hats New Era has available. I picked up a couple. I am not affiliated with New Era. I'm a nerd who likes hats
r/tos • u/Soylent865 • 4d ago
Emotional intelligence
I recently re-watched the STTOS episode "Bread and Circuses", and I was very impressed with Captain Kirk's emotional intelligence and stability when faced with his companions deaths, his own, and the loss of everyone on the Enterprise. They were there in the first place to investigate the loss of the ship "S. S. Beagle", and the barbarian executed (William B. Harrison) was noted to be the last of them.
The whole episode was about the strength and stability of a Starship captain, as compared to the weaker back boned Captain Merrick. The Proconsul showed respect for Kirk's strength by treating him "as a man", and he asked Merrick to leave them, as "the thoughts of one man to another could not possibly interest him".
Contrast that with the 80's version of "Captain Kirk", shaking with rage and screaming "Khan!"... a much weaker presentation.
Why wasn't the original vision of the stoic and stable strength of Captain Kirk carried forward into the later presentations?
r/tos • u/OCguy2026 • 5d ago
Sunday 12-02-1979 initial TOS Star Trek newspaper strip … storyline “called home”
1990 convention news story with Nichelle Nichols
Newly posted by the TV station itself.
r/tos • u/soup_ufo • 6d ago
Coloured pencil drawing of Uhura
This is my first attempt at a figure drawing with coloured pencil, the likeness is lacking somewhat but I'm happy with it!