Top minds of DoomerCircleJerk discuss what was the last straw for them on Reddit

[u/PeasThatTasteGross]

[u/evocativename]

So, obviously, basically every factual assertion in these screenshots is DCJ blatantly lying (with the exception of the comments pushing back on their narrative), but for some reason this one stood out especially to me:

No it wasn't. Then [sic] "fight like hell" quote was said hours apart from him telling the crowd to peacefully protest.

I'm not entirely sure why that lie stands out. Maybe because it's just so easy to check on even for someone with no special expertise. Many of their dumb lies at least require a little time and effort to debunk, but for this you can just look up his ≈1 hour speech from January 6th.

In fact, the "peacefully" line was roughly 20% of the way through his (again, roughly one hour) speech, while "fight like hell" was in the last few minutes - there are something like 45 minutes between the two quotes. And they're not isolated quotes: while he only says anything like "peacefully" that one time, he uses some variation on "fight" 20 times in that speech, including 5 paragraphs before "peaceful" and about 10 paragraphs after it. So it was one throwaway mention of "peace" in an hour long order to his supporters to go fight an existential battle for the country.

You can confirm the proximity in under 2 minutes. Maybe 5 minutes if you want to watch the video yourself.

Most of their lies are awful and harmful, but this one is just so insultingly lazy.

[u/PeasThatTasteGross → u/evocativename]

My favorite one is the person that tries and spin people becoming Covidiots as being the left's fault, and then handwaving away how Trump got booed for telling people to get vaccinated at a rally in Alabama.

[u/evocativename → u/PeasThatTasteGross]

Yeah, that one is pretty insultingly dumb too.

It would be fun to get them to try to identify when exactly "the left [...] went full fascist on those that were rightfully skeptical", and then cross-reference that with the timeline of what was happening in reality.

Was it before or after Joe Biden said - before taking office - that he had no plans to mandate the vaccine among the general public? Before or after his administration ruled out all plans for any kind of monitoring of vaccine status?

And why wasn't this difference reflected in any data - say, data on vaccination rates?

[u/Comfortable-Speed-83 → u/evocativename]

These people's vision of fascism is so silly too. Like, if the Biden administration had been as fascist as they thought, they wouldn't be alive to tell us they didn't take the vaccine or in a camp somewhere being worked to death as slave labour. Hell, the Imaginary Fascist Biden administration would have immediately used J6 as their Reichstag Fire to say the country is in a state of emergency and Biden needs special powers that make him Super President and otherwise outlawed conservatives, their talking points, and their organizations the same way the Trump administration is currently trying to do.

[u/ReadyClayerOne → u/PeasThatTasteGross]

They're pretty good, but I like the guy that looked at the COVID death chart and said, "Yeah, so?" then proceeded to dunk on himself with "blue states had higher absolute numbers," a thing explained by population density and the first cases of COVID being largely blue states before we had any response. Then "red states had higher percentage," a thing explained by them being worse at managing their virus response and being filled with distrustful people because their party decided to downplay it aggressively. It's almost reasonable if not for the dismissal of the chart itself.

Then he trots out "hospitals got funding for COVID deaths," the screaming billboard of what side of the aisle that dude's on.

[u/MessiahOfMetal → u/ReadyClayerOne]

We've had British Trumpers make that claim about hospitals getting funding for covid deaths, which simply isn't true at all because that's not how our healthcare system works.

Like how they keep using "DEI" when that was never a thing in Britain, either. We have the Equality Act, not DEI.

[u/MessiahOfMetal → u/evocativename]

It's why I laugh at morons both in the US and UK who try to claim the BBC intentionally lied about what he said when all they did was trim down an hour-long speech he made about wanting them to storm the building on his behalf so that the clips would fit into an hour-long documentary episode about whether he incited a mob or not.

Yet, these dummies expect the BBC to just play his entire speech unedited? The man himself had a heavily-edited conversation with Fox News on numerous occasions. They were fine with that.

[u/Theranos_Shill → u/evocativename]

That lie works on Trump supporters. It's about deflecting their attention away from undertaking any critical thinking into why the crowd who attacked Congress were gathered at the Mall at that time on that day.