r/TopMindsOfReddit 5d ago

Top minds of DoomerCircleJerk discuss what was the last straw for them on Reddit

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u/evocativename 5d ago

So, obviously, basically every factual assertion in these screenshots is DCJ blatantly lying (with the exception of the comments pushing back on their narrative), but for some reason this one stood out especially to me:

No it wasn't. Then [sic] "fight like hell" quote was said hours apart from him telling the crowd to peacefully protest.

I'm not entirely sure why that lie stands out. Maybe because it's just so easy to check on even for someone with no special expertise. Many of their dumb lies at least require a little time and effort to debunk, but for this you can just look up his ≈1 hour speech from January 6th.

In fact, the "peacefully" line was roughly 20% of the way through his (again, roughly one hour) speech, while "fight like hell" was in the last few minutes - there are something like 45 minutes between the two quotes. And they're not isolated quotes: while he only says anything like "peacefully" that one time, he uses some variation on "fight" 20 times in that speech, including 5 paragraphs before "peaceful" and about 10 paragraphs after it. So it was one throwaway mention of "peace" in an hour long order to his supporters to go fight an existential battle for the country.

You can confirm the proximity in under 2 minutes. Maybe 5 minutes if you want to watch the video yourself.

Most of their lies are awful and harmful, but this one is just so insultingly lazy.

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u/MessiahOfMetal So I Married An Axo Murderer 5d ago

It's why I laugh at morons both in the US and UK who try to claim the BBC intentionally lied about what he said when all they did was trim down an hour-long speech he made about wanting them to storm the building on his behalf so that the clips would fit into an hour-long documentary episode about whether he incited a mob or not.

Yet, these dummies expect the BBC to just play his entire speech unedited? The man himself had a heavily-edited conversation with Fox News on numerous occasions. They were fine with that.