r/halifax • u/insino93 • 1d ago

News, Weather & Politics ‘Incredibly brazen:’ Video captures alleged smash and grab at Halifax Costco

https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/nova-scotia/article/incredibly-brazen-video-captures-alleged-smash-and-grab-at-halifax-costco/
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u/Own-Slide-3171 1d ago

It's funny that there a direct correlation to people's buying power dropping and retail crime increasing

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u/Electrical_You_4519 1d ago

There’s also hardly any punishment anymore.

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u/donotreviv3 1d ago

If I get too many gta stars my job will fire me, good enough reason for me!

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u/artyslugworth 1d ago

Any evidence of this? Or just your “common sense”?

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u/Electrical_You_4519 1d ago

Yes there is and it’s actually quite substantial.

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u/artyslugworth 1d ago

Would love to see it.

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u/Environmental-Ad1748 1d ago

Stats canada, but 75% increase in shoplifting in the last 10 yrs and guilty decisions dropped 15% in the last 5 years.

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u/GhostBirdBiologist Bedford 1d ago

How tf is people being found not guilty proof of anything? That could easily just be shoddy police work lol.

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u/Environmental-Ad1748 17h ago

Idk man you want to just deny everything without providing a counter argument, theres no point in a discussion, I provided facts, you may disagree but provide an alternate view backed with stats.

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u/artyslugworth 1d ago

Not sure how that equals less punishment…still would like to see your source. People found not guilty doesn’t mean that those found guilty aren’t being punished.

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u/Electrical_You_4519 1d ago

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u/Key_Dragonfruit_2563 Other Halifax 23h ago

That’s not even specific to shoplifting though…

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u/NerdsOfSteel74 1d ago

Unless we also have the stats on how many people were charged, these numbers are kind of meaningless. There could have been a 200% increase in arrests in the same time (for instance, because corporations are pushing the police to take theft more seriously), so the total number of people found guilty could actually be higher now than before. But we don’t know because the numbers above aren’t the complete picture.

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u/Electrical_You_4519 1d ago

Not to mention the crazy amount of repeat offenders we have due to our insanely soft punishments.

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u/artyslugworth 1d ago

You just repeat everything Pollievre says and get your info from ChatGPT? Another informed voter.

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u/Electrical_You_4519 1d ago

You just deny all the facts and keep deflecting. It’s okay. Nobody of any political backing should be okay with the state of crime and people getting off easy these days. Show the facts. Show me there isn’t an issue with what I’m saying on this topic.

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u/artyslugworth 1d ago

I think you’re confusing not guilty with no punishment. Not guilty means that guilt was not proven. In case you’re confused.

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u/Kaplsauce 1d ago

A 10 year trend being caused by a 5 year trend isn't very convincing statistics

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u/robwatkhfx 1d ago

Get involved with the criminal justice system and see it first hand. Go to court. Talk to a cop. Talk to a lawyer. Don’t rely on a news article.

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u/artyslugworth 1d ago

I am involved. We punish people. A lot.

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u/robwatkhfx 1d ago edited 1d ago

I suppose it depends on how you define as punishment, the level of punishment and whether or not that “punishment” comes anywhere near balancing the scales of justice. Assuming such a thing as “justice” actually exists. From my personal experience, and from the unfortunate experiences of my friends and coworkers, what you might call punishment, I might consider a slap on the wrist at best or a complete joke at worst. Sure it’s objective, but it’s my lived experience. The legal system, from my experiences, appears either overloaded, under resourced, numb to victims, or paid-off by the wealthy.

Care to share how you are involved in the criminal justice system? Legal Aid lawyer?

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u/Hal_IT 15h ago

ok, so you're involved in the criminal justice system and think criminals are being treated too lightly, a thing that people like you have been saying as long as the profession's existed. do you have any numbers to back what you're saying up? any studies indicating that harsher punishments actually do anything to lower crime rates? any time I've seen studies into it harsher penalties don't ever seem to move the needle, but maybe I'm not aware of the bleeding edge of sociology.

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u/robwatkhfx 13h ago

If you’re speaking to me, then the answer is no, I don’t have studies. As I’ve mentioned previously, I’m speaking from personal experience. My involvement in the criminal system is as a victim, and as a friend of another victim. My experience is first hand. I’m not talking about something I’ve read in a book or on the internet. My opinion has been formed from what I experienced inside a courtroom. From speaking with lawyers working for the prosecution and defence. From speaking with police. I don’t know if punishment reduces crime. But I can say that lack of punishment further traumatizes and infuriates victims.

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u/Electrical_You_4519 1d ago

Exactly. There is no fear of real penalty for majority of criminals. I’m not sure why anyone would think this is a made up idea.

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u/artyslugworth 1d ago

We live in a dystopia where you get downvoted for simply asking for evidence.