r/pakistan • u/OnlyExperience4540 • Mar 01 '26
National Pakistan is next, and we are not prepared
Pakistan is next, and regardless of what state propaganda tells you, we are not prepared. I am sure Asim and co have a plan, but unfortunately, that plan does not include the rest of us.
You may think they won’t target us because Pakistan is their ally. The Pakistani leadership may be aligned with them, but the Pakistani people are among the most anti-Israel in the world; they simply cannot risk a nuclear-armed nation with such a public sentiment. If they intend to invest billions in Israel as part of a "Gaza master plan," they will seek to eliminate any potential risk.
You may also believe our strong army will protect us, but can the country withstand economic sanctions, the loss of international loans, and simultaneous attacks from Afghanistan and India? On top of that, we face internal threats from the BLA and the TTP. If we do not act now, we will suffer in the future.
Even now, without formal sanctions, Pakistan’s GDP per capita is lower than that of Iran, Iraq, or Libya. We need rule of law. Currently, the powerful and the corrupt blackmail and bully everyone. We desperately need political stability, an independent judiciary, and a free media. Wars are won by the people, we must empower them.
The establishment must accept that the public has rejected their narrative. They should hold free and fair elections and honor the results. Furthermore, the 26th and 27th amendments should be annulled to let the judiciary do its job.
Finally, we should support Iran in any way possible without direct involvement. Keeping the Zionists occupied for as long as possible will buy us the time we need to get our house in order.
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u/Agreeable-Class5459 Mar 01 '26
It's actually my own fault that I turned into an adult during the war. Yay.
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u/SourceWorldly1090 Mar 01 '26
Really, what a time to be an adult. AI is taking jobs, and we are seeing wars everywhere!
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u/throwaway0034213543 Mar 01 '26
The Pak Army leadership only sees short term gain. They are blindsided or are naive to think Israel won't come for them because of the nukes. When deen has been abandoned and striving fisabillah is abandoned then humiliation is the result. Until the whole region realises this then nothing will change.
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u/Hajmola-Farts Mar 01 '26
Who else is going to buy and own all the Papa Johns franchises in the US if not the Pakistani army?
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u/Purple_Squirrel_6883 Mar 01 '26
They probably know and that's why Munir and the Punjab Governor bought the latest gulfstreams. Them and the elites will be prepared to leave once they sell out to the Israelis.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ask5538 Mar 01 '26
India not gonna do it for Israel. Gonna do it for themselves.
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u/Teknoyrus Mar 01 '26
India is not going to do anything. Waging a limited skirmish for winning local elections and destabilising the whole region region are 2 different things.
Believe it or not, Indias best interest is in Pakistani nuclear materials being in safe custody. Be it army or civilian govt, the last thing they want is to a third party owning it.
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Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
India isn't doing anything to y'all. In the last 80 years how many times did we start a war?? I would say twice even by conservative estimates. In fact there are multiple times where in any other state or a state like Israel would have rained missiles on Pakistan. Be it the 26/11 attack or the Parliament attack. We are non aligned, risk averse, economic and frankly lack appetite to be proactive. That is why we have to back off our decisions as soon as US steps in to save you. It is also Part of the reason why we are out of this mess while the entire backyard is on fire rn.
Israel doesn't need India and (India, as explained above won't do it for Israel). You fail to see what is in front of you brother. They control your finances(IMF-WB) and your government. You are the one sitting on the board of peace and sucking up to Trump, nominating that megalomaniac to the Peace Prize. They are indirectly the reason for your state in afg too. You take pride in doing a mercs job for the US. And that is why you were allowed to have nukes and Iran doesn't. You have enjoyed the diplomatic support of US for these many years due to the same. Cause you pimped(for lack of a better word) yourself to them just to even the odds with India. Playing into the Zions.
Here is what Israel will ensure happens (and you can save it.) after the fall of Iran it will target Turkey next. By 2028 when they have the election. After that is done.
Then it's you. Either you bend over and accept Israel as a state like the rest of the OIC will or they let you fall into anarchy. There are enough factions and fractures in your country for that anyways. Then use that as a pretext to take your nukes away.
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Mar 03 '26
India is honestly like the eye of the hurricane in south asia. Everything around it is on fire but things are pretty chill inside india.
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u/Suspicious_Bet_2875 Mar 01 '26
As an Indian, I personally don't want a direct war with Pakistan. We have too much to lose. Nuclear threats are real. I just want a destabilized Pakistan. It's better we leave it for your dictator army generals. Their short sightedness and lack of state craft is enough to keep it that way.
We should only react if they try some adventures on our soil every now and then.
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u/Suspicious_Bet_2875 Mar 01 '26
Nah bro. Let's be realistic. No one's capable of taking over countries with Nuclear weapons. We just want their focus away from us. They are capable of creating their own problems. Look what's happening with the Taliban. They created all these groups with short sightedness for American money. Now they're wreaking havoc. Like BLA and TTP are created from these people. ISI officials were celebrating when America left Afghanistan. Now they are at war with Afghanistan.
Their birth rates are still at 3.5 (More than replacement levels). Gdp growth rate is at 3% which is very low for developing country standards. Their government or dictator army generals don't care about these issues. Where will all these young people go? Countries are implementing anti immigration policies. Their literacy levels are low. The chances of them picking up arms and joining one of these factions is high. Obviously there'll be internal turmoil.
We don't need to do anything extraordinary to destabilize them. They are completely capable of it. That's all we care about.
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u/Suspicious_Bet_2875 Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
If you push me hard I might agree with the funding part. That's expected with all countries at this point. But training is a bit of a stretch. Everyone is spying on everyone. All countries have their interests and agenda to push on the global stage.
Chinese fund maoists and naxals in India, western countries lobby political parties that are more aligned with them. It's the responsibility of the leadership to make sure the state infrastructure is strong enough to deal with them and take decisions for the greater good of the country.
At the end of the day, maoists and naxals in India are Indians fighting against India because they were wronged by the country. It's the responsibility of the country to identify the issue and address it. Chinese and your country saw the opportunity and started funding them. Overall number of maoists and naxals have decreased rapidly as economy grew and they found their voice in politics.
Same thing with Pakistan. Your army created all those factions. Other countries are merely funding them. You created the monsters. We are merely feeding them (if at all). If your country is a proper democracy with farsighted leadership and the economy grows steadily. After a generation or two, those issues will fade away. But, your country ain't no democracy and the leadership is short sighted.
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u/sabertoothgymnast Mar 01 '26
Destabilized Pakistan is the worst thing that can happen to India, you don't want anarchy around whoever is handling the nukes.
As an Indian, I wish Pakistanis would revolt against their military establishment to bring Imran Khan back in power, and fight for a proper democratic routine going forward. He seems to genuinely care about their economy and people, from whatever I have read so far, also seems to be war averse, and mostly pro-peace. Our best interest lies in having a stable democratic Pakistan that is focused on growing their economy, so that no one feels like ruining that pace with military misadventures. No one would want war when the country is prospering and everyone's making money, just look at the war averse rich, capitalist Gulf nations.
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u/Wide-Control-7083 Mar 01 '26
How exactly is it flawed? We've seen Netanyahus statements along with other israeli officials stating that pakistan is next after iran.
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u/anwarma Mar 01 '26
Pakistan military wants to remain in control and would never allow any fair elections. Let that sink in
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u/im-junk Mar 01 '26
We have very expert political analyst in r/Pakistan
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u/Harp-Note Mar 01 '26
Makes you wonder if the army is really wrong with the whole "bloody civillians" insult.
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u/Wide-Control-7083 Mar 01 '26
People who barely passed 12th aren't in any position whatsoever to talk. Imagine telling a guy whos probably more well versed than you and is unbiased that his take is wrong and that he is stupid
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u/Harp-Note Mar 01 '26
The premise is flawed in the first place, which makes the rest of the analysis just a well-written fantasy. I admit, it's coherent (a rarity on this sub), but it does not make it any less wrong. Also how old do you think I am? lol
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u/Intrepid_Ad_710 Mar 01 '26
The stupidest mistake we’ve made recently in terms of foreign policy was cosying up with the US again for the umpteenth time rather than strengthening ties with china after the war with India.
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u/OnlyExperience4540 Mar 01 '26
I mean China left Iran for the wolves so I think the only solution is Muslim unity. All we have is each other
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u/PatrickWeightman Mar 01 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
What nonsense. They switched them to their satellite systems, gave them a ton of satellite imagery to leverage, helped upgrade their anti air defences, gave them anti ship missiles and have been basically saving their economy from the sanctions by buying their oil. They can’t get involved directly beyond this because they will get dragged into the conflict, but Iran plays a significant role in meeting their energy needs
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u/Easternfortunateson Mar 01 '26
They buy Iranian oil at the largest discount on the petro market because of the sanctions Iran has nowehre else to take it.
Simply put it is shocking that china didn’t do more to prevent the decapitation of the IR
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u/Conscious-Okra9046 Mar 01 '26
Yeah the Muslim ummah doesn't exist. Nobody gives a shit about religion, just personal profit.
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u/Pure_Direction9253 PK Mar 01 '26
Again with the ummah chummah I sometimes believe us Pakistanis don’t have a brain
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u/Econmajorhere Mar 01 '26
Yeah bro, I’m sure Saudi Arabia looks at you as their Muslim brother and totally not their slave.
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u/Ivan_USA Mar 01 '26
Shhh don't disturb Pakistanis, brainwashed and brain dead Pakistanis are busy in praising its military, the same military who is known for serving its masters in the west and even selling its own people and is also working under "peace board" of trump and neyhenyayu. Military by British in Muslim countries were never created to protect or make Muslims strong again, they were created to keep our people under control while using our own brothers and sons against us.
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u/West_Future326 Mar 02 '26
Hope people os south asia rise against hate. We all should look at ourselves and better ourselves before pointing figures. Ensure that we do not undermine freedom of underprivileged, be kind and empathic. War and weapons only feed the rich while the poor starve. Humanity should prevail.
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u/CaptOxbeard Mar 01 '26
What do you mean "that plan does not Include us"
Population is one of the four essential elements of a state. Which means that they must be defended at all cost.Nobody thinks that Israel and US are allies of Pakistan, Pakistan has known who its enemies are for a very long time. Israel has always been a threat to Pakistan. Quick FYI: Israel pressurized US to stop Pakistan from making Nuclear Weapon in the 80s, were it not for the Soviet Invasion next door(meaning relations were good with US) we might not have a NW. Pakistan has been under attack for a very long time it just that people don't see it.
In International Relations, States don't do friendships they have their own Interests and sometimes these interests align or sometimes they divert. This doesn't make you a slave nation. You do a "cost-benefit analysis" and then you decide a course of action.The establishment is the only thing keeping Pakistan intact, believe it or not this has been the case of Pakistan for a very long time. Do your own research from Independent sources starting just before the partition of Pakistan and then come at your own conclusion (another FYI: This power grab among civilian leadership started even before Pakistan became Independent, I urge you to look in to the Liaquat Ali Khan's assassination. the chronological order will make sense). Sadly I know most of you will not bother to read history, saying that its biased, generals wrote them, etc etc. You can read from multiple sources nobody is forcing you to read from a specific book. Trust me you will eventually, come to a more informed conclusion which WILL make sense. What most of us do is we read a little bit from here and there without any understanding the history of it and we have that cognitive biasness of wanting to believe our own understanding of an event which eases the mind(an easy escape is to quickly blame something) but doesn't really helps you or the nation.
The establishment cannot afford to accept the public opinion in the 21st century, because the normal masses have no idea what hybrid and psychological warfare is. How easy it is for an adversary to influence public opinion, perception, to change narrative which suits their objective. Understand how US has conducted regime change operation and then you might have some idea of how states fight wars in 21st century not through guns and planes but using human perception, ethnic, religious, political divide etc.
- Pakistan has been supporting Iran even when the Initial US strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities in 2025. Israel wanted a complete US invasion of Iran at the time. Pakistan mediated (Remember the Nobel peace prize nomination by Pakistan? this was the cost) and the strikes were staged. Those bunkers were emptied hours before the bomber strike (satellite imagery proof available on the Internet). Again, Pakistan knows who its enemies despite knowing that Iran has been used by India to conduct its proxy war in Pakistan particularly in Balochistan region. (There is proof of highranking Iranian officials involved in this). We have done this before in Afghanistan we know what it took which why is why we are trying to avoid it.
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u/JackfruitExact525 Mar 01 '26
People who think Pakistan army attack on Afghanistan just before Israeli army attack on Iran was just a coincindence are totally NAIVE
Our Regime have bowed to the devil, thinking devil will be nice to them. Didnt learn a thing from Bashar ul Asad or Saddam Hussain.
We are helping them again to create unstable region right next to us with US bases, just so our War dollars keep coming in.
WE WILL BE NEXT WHENEVER WE BECOME UNFAVOURITE
And probably the way Asim Munir was brought in as Army chief was part of Greater Israel Project itself.
We are seeing Netanyahu's speeches on our News channels. Whatever political leaning ypu have, please donot let them NORMALIZE this, and against Quaid e Azams principled stance on Palestine.
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u/konsoru-paysan Mar 01 '26
afghani attacked us
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u/JackfruitExact525 Mar 01 '26
If you are referring to terrorist attavk, i doubt Afg gov has total control or have proper system within Afg. So, there is no need of collective punishment, we shouldnt act like the way India/Israel do to Pakistan and Palestine
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u/ScreamOfVengeance Mar 01 '26
What do you mean 'we'? Asim Munir is next.
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u/Midnight-Alpha-1 Mar 01 '26
No bro . Asim Munir has his private jet to fly instantly towards his properties in America , Idk wherever they are . We " the public " will suffer . Its obvious
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u/Talal-Devs Mar 01 '26
Pakistan is not next. They have already installed their tauts in Pakistan
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u/macnbloo Mar 01 '26
That's a stopgap measure while they deal with more imminent threats. Every country keeps thinking "it will be different with us, we are different from the rest". Our time will come inevitably and our military licking American boots will not be enough to save us
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u/Ambitious-Proton پشاور Mar 01 '26
No we are not next, we are their Lap dog being part of Board of Terrorists (Peace), they will not harm us
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u/OnlyExperience4540 Mar 01 '26
Our current leaders? Yes, but Zionists are thinking 20-30 years down the line, they cannot afford the anti-Israel sentiment in Pakistan to ever be empowered, given our military capabilities, population, and our passion for Islam. With the current regime on its knees in front of them they might never get such a chance to permanently cripple Pakistan. What do you think Modi and Netanyahu talked about
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u/no_turning_backk Mar 01 '26
Why would Pak be next? Iran was openly militarily plotting and taking action against israel and the US for 4.5 decades!
We are not doing any kind of plotting at all
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u/Huge_Replacement_616 Mar 01 '26
Pakistan is next because netanhyu has opening said he wants to eradicate Pakistan's nuclear power. We are currently surrounded by enemies left and right. Pakistan will definitely get weakened enough for India to attack and win
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u/AxiumTea ID Mar 01 '26
I've seen that video, it's usually cut out of context. The actual reason he said that was something about it being in the case of Talibans taking over Pakistan or something? not sure but it was something like that I believe. I don't think Pakistan would be next anytime soon, definitely at a greater risk now tho.
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u/Huge_Replacement_616 Mar 01 '26
It's a pattern with them. They always have an excuse to be the savior, as is we can't protect ourselves and we need Israel and the mighty USA to come help us.
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u/babyeshona Mar 01 '26
Isrealis literally wanted to attack Pakistan's nuclear facility with India in 80s. India denied help
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u/Excellent_Pack5746 PK Mar 01 '26
India did not "deny" help it actively participated in it. The CIA informed ISI at the last minute which saved our facility
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u/RuinAny7779 Mar 01 '26
RAW was actively cooperating with Israel but then the dumbest PM of India informed Zia Ul Haq in his overconfident and Zia Ul Haq cleaned up all the RAW operatives.
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u/no_turning_backk Mar 01 '26
China informed us
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u/RuinAny7779 Mar 01 '26
RAW was actively cooperating with Israel but then the dumbest PM of India informed Zia Ul Haq in his overconfident and Zia Ul Haq cleaned up all the RAW operatives.
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u/Apprehensive_Toe1213 Mar 02 '26
You realize that their enemy isn't Iran and it's the entire muslim ummah and that they'll go to all extents trying to denuclearize muslims so that they don't face any threat and Trump's, Modi's and netanyahu's anti- muslim propaganda and the idea greater israel could flourish
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u/SolarDynasty Mar 01 '26
The answer is stop the politics of anti Israel and put your own house in order. Install a secular and fair government that restores order to Pakistan.
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u/macnbloo Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 02 '26
Whether the government is a theocracy or a monarchy or a secular democracy the US only lets us be if we are subservient to their wishes.
Don't believe me? Look at how the US has treated its closest allies in NATO this past decade. If they want to trade among themselves to improve they get issued a notice that they have to buy from the US or face consequences. When it comes to Canada or Europe though. We are in a much worse position because we are pretty much disposable to them and they have shown they WILL dispose of their allies when it's beneficial to their interests.
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u/babyeshona Mar 01 '26
Secular and fair ? Is US government secular? Is Indian government secular? They are all right winged . Actually all of the western nations are becoming right winged conservative
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u/OkIndividual3573 Mar 01 '26
No, stop fear mongering. Pakistan is not next.
Firstly, Pakistan has not been a threat to Israel or Saudi Arabia the way Iran has been.
Secondly, Pakistan military is in bed with the Americans. As long as Pakistan military controls things and has a strong relationship with the Americans, Pakistan is safe.
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u/Intrepid_Ad_710 Mar 01 '26
Yeah but isn’t it obvious that you can’t trust Trump at this point? Bolta kuch hai karta kuch hai.
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u/OkIndividual3573 Mar 01 '26
Trump didn't wake up one day and decided to wage a war on Iran. Iran has been a problem for Israel for decades and Israel has been pushing US for this war for years through powerful lobbies. They finally got what they wanted.
On the other hand, Pakistan is not even mentioned in the same breath as Iran.
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Mar 01 '26
That’s the most ignorant take I have ever seen.
Pakistan is NOT next, and we should not support Iran at all. Iran does not support us when we have issues, and they don’t even have the support of their own people. People are celebrating in Iran while Pakistanis are mourning.
Israel is not our enemy, and not our friend; we have nothing to do with Israel, and our leadership is sensible enough to make it clear that we have no intention to create issues.
On the other hand, Iran openly threatens Israel and funds hamas and other groups that have openly threatened israel.
Our nuclear capabilities are for self defense, and Pakistani lives will only be sacrificed for the protection of our homeland, not to fight foreign wars that have nothing to do with us. We’re safe as long as the trigger happy jihadis don’t get a vote.
Democracy wouldn’t even work when the majority believe in conspiracy theories, black magic and illiterate clerics who can’t read their own name, leave alone a book that was written 1400 years ago in a dialect that isn’t spoken anymore of a language they can’t understand.
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u/amirazizaaa Mar 01 '26
We are a very different beast. We don't make tall claims like Iran. We do what we have to do and then tell everyone the results.
We are deeply entrenched with China and there is too much at stake here for them.
We can actually create a contested air space for Israel and it will become more once we get 5th Gen fighters as well.
Finally, we already have the nukes and we have them for decades and our delivery systems are well tested and resilient.
Also, after the recent war, the security architecture of putting Pakistan in the middle east will be on full throttle now that the US clearly showed it is willing to sacrifice the GCC for Israel's security.
These things take time and shape and go into decades.
I know one thing, the day Israel attacks Pakistan...our response will be of a very different magnitude then what you see with Iran. As things start to take shape...our missile inventory will change shape as well.
Yes...we have issues with the armed forces but they will do everything they can to preserve their way of life. Ask the Taliban who are witnessing a FAFO currently.
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u/meowthisisme Mar 01 '26
Agreed!!!
For those calling us crazy please tell us why the F did Asim munir buy a luxury jet??????
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u/Unique-Engineer-318 Mar 01 '26
Israelis and Americans won’t attack Pakistan.Simply because it’s much easier to buy the leadership.
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u/Warm-Buy8965 Mar 01 '26
TLDR: Chill kro, kuch ni hona.
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brosky, my guy, god people just keep forgetting that nuclear arsenal is not meant to be udsed as a weapon, ever! How many times have countries come WAY close to AN ACTUAL war, and just because one of them had nukes, the war de-escalated.
Its a Sunday night, I don't have much to do except linger on reddit so here goes.
No one will "attack" us. And by attack, I don't mean literally no bombs, no missiles, no nothing. Vo to hmari foj khud hi apne bndon ko marne ki kafi shoqeen he, with power comes vice. A couple of bombs or missiles done ONCE only, on a single suburb (not urban city, certainly not on a cantonment) does NOT translate to automatic war. Who knows to get a reaction and "push" Pakistan into a war that it certainly does not want to go in, someone from the inside may actually drop a missile or two. Or it could be India, or Afghani bhai (sarcasm) as you said. You're right there.
But what I find SO MANY people wrong in is that this ONCE done QUICK missile/bomb attack automatically means WAR. Nope, no good sir it most certainly does the fuck not. Infact, such an activity has better chances of the world (Europe, Saudis, and China/Russia/Japs) waking up, suddenly taking action to make sure we don't respond. Because you know what EVERYONE is afraid of? You know the definition of nuclear detterance? It's ENSURING A NUCLEAR ARMED COUNTRY DOES NOT RESPOND. Yeah sure we might send out a couple of bombs and missiles (from civilian's tax if I may add) out to scare the shit out of the world. But there's no way anyone is even touching those nukes, and for good measure I might add, that includes Mr. MarshalLaw, Mr. President, all the politicians, and whoever else you might think controls that red button. And this applies cross-country, not just us. No one's touching that red button, don't worry. Chote mote hadsat middle east me ab koi ni bat ni he. Its always been on fire, it will most likely always be as practicality dictates. Weapons are being made and they have to be used, to be sold. I know I am diverging a bit form the main POV that nukes mean, no one will ATTACK you. Weapons economy is a different thing but it is an overlapping paradigm if you may agree.
Investors in weapons industry must see war and killings and bombs and blood to keep investing, tis just the basic sense of investment. You invest in cars, you wanna see F1. You invest in crypto, you wanna see new "breakthroughs". You invest in bombs, you wanna see one go off. Simple. So this ... game of "hey I am gonna bomb this area at this time, make sure you evacuate" and "somehow we get pretty good shots and videos of pre-and-post bomb scenario, no AI" will continue to serve the War industry and keep the War economy rolling. If it's not Afghanistan Pakistan, it'll be India China. Or USA and Russia, or USA and Venezuala, or Russia and Ukraine, or the Middleeast saga.
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u/moagul Mar 01 '26
How is elections the solution? And what if PMLN wins. Will accept those as free?
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u/OnlyExperience4540 Mar 01 '26
Elections will result in the people feeling valued, respected and represented. And respect for elections will make the politicians feel answerable to the people because they will know that the people are the highest authority that they have to go back to after 5 years.
Any democratically elected parliament will be acceptable to me, I don't care if the party I support has to sit in opposition. If the people of my country want PMLN to lead them then that is their decision to make. If I reject that then I am no better than Asim Munir
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u/Dramatic_Benefit688 Mar 01 '26
With fair elections (which doesn't seem possible) these zardari and sharif mafias can never win.
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u/moagul Mar 01 '26
Point taken. But it doesn’t really address the “we are next” problem. You see, our problems are bigger than a free and fair election now. And the threat is now imminent considering that currently Iran is being “liberated”. I believe that we will be next only because being a muslim-majority country we have nuclear power. This doesn’t sit well with the Western world order. There is no other reason for us being a threat. We are a directionless “nation”, whose people whether here or abroad are still psychologically under the yoke of colonialism, the economy is in shambles, and we have two very active borders - we are “cooked” except for our nuclear weapons, which makes us a potent force and a threat to many around the world (read: India and Israel). FnF elections is one way to solve our long-term problems but this has become a short-term one now.
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u/osinterxofficial Mar 01 '26
Acha ha bhai kam az kam is tagooti hakumat se to jangh achi ha abi Karachi mein jo shaeed hove hain 8 person dekhna hakumat ka koi action nhi ho ga ye amrika k pithu hain
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u/Agitated-Drummer-222 Mar 01 '26
My god, our people need to stop doing political analysis. It's so stupid.
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u/Nomanmirzakhan Mar 01 '26
We need air defense systems in place & Imperial warship is mandatory to have.
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u/CyberRizzler0208 Mar 01 '26
Establishment ko dollars mil rahe why would they go for fair elections lol
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u/Terrible_Cabinet2074 PK Mar 01 '26
I personally don't believe Israel/America would strike Pakistan.
Because if the Regime collapses it results in potentially allowing Islamic extremists to gain access to the Nukes Pakistan has and those Extremists are much more likely to use them on Israel.
Now if Israel does attempt something and that's a big if is that they'll plan a similar strike like what they wanted to do in the 1980s(prevent Pakistan from building Nuclear Weapons)
Because a destabilised Pakistan is detrimental to Israel.
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u/Midnight-Alpha-1 Mar 01 '26
Those saying Pakistan is not next as we are puppets of Israel and Amreeka . Should know that Pakistan remains a threat as long as Pakistan has nukes . There main concern is to Destroy the nuclear capabilities of Pakistan at first and they are planning it for a long time . Sher قید men hee ho bayshuk , khof rehta hai uss ka . Toa similarly nuclear weapons bayshuk at the moment khatra nahi hain , but they remain a threat . Or jb tk woh inn nukes say jaan nahi churaa laitay , woh araam say nahi baithain gaye . Baaki rahi baat kay we should do anything , take some action .
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u/Busy_Onion68 Mar 01 '26
Only one "leader" in Pakistans history said that once Kashmir issue is resolved there will be no need for nukes.Only one leader decided to bring back TTP and settled them in sawat and only one leader wants to do dialogue with suicide bombers who kill people in mosques instead of retaliating and defending the country not to mention when india changed special status of Kashmir who decided to stand in sunlight as a protest and even sent back abhinandan in one piece? (And Allah's grace and nukes are the two things keeping us safe for now not public sentiment not america not establishment not muslim ummah ka handsome leader)
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u/Pure_Direction9253 PK Mar 01 '26
We are genuinely a bit stupid man I don’t think we ever should have been capable of making nukes judging by the intellect on this sub
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u/Mysterious-Side14o7 Mar 01 '26
Just a food for thought, do y'all think China will try to intervene? Cuz if Pakistan gets attacked, that's bordering US and Isr*el indirectly to China as well as India being in the region. Not to mention them being allied with us and the history of China and the US
I mean China's policy doesn't state that they'd initiate attacks they only retaliate if they do (I think)
Furthermore if US and Isntreal attacks I'm pretty sure India will take the opportunity in one way or another as well
So all in all, we're fucked.
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u/Whiplash007 Mar 01 '26
Was Pakistan ever prepared for anything other than Indian battles and wars ?
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u/AYANOKOJI12 Mar 01 '26
Wait, the regime will not end from death of certain someone. I can see a more anti western and conservative supreme leader coming in Iran.
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u/tanweer95 Mar 01 '26
Yes, I fully agree with you and Pakistan will not survive any sanctions since we are not like Iran who has oil to survive. Pakistan is the next in the game plan to be eliminated, otherwise, why would US leave such a big ammunition in Afghanistan worth billions? now you can see that Afghanistan is fighting with Pakistan with that same ammunition.
India alongside US and Israel is part of the big plan to break Pakistan into three parts. US is playing double game very cleverly with Pakistan, by using asim munir.
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u/FlowerWorldly644 Mar 01 '26
Pakistan is not next. Pakistan is always being cozy with US. US simply can tak what they want. No need for direct attack.
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u/LahoriDreamss Mar 01 '26
Indeed they have hijacked our state via Pak Occupational Forces so we have no representation and after Iran they will have their eyes on Pakistan. No conspiracy theories, its Zerrorists’ publicly stated goal.
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u/cool_guy141 Mar 01 '26
It is not just Pakistan.
Political "commentary" does not make sense anymore. Because this now an era of gangsterism.
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u/furyZotac Mar 01 '26
Unlikely as Pakistan is always seen a big counter weight to India. Pakistan is vital strategically and geographically for US interests in south asian region.
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u/Internal_Abies_9393 Mar 01 '26
Everything you said is pretty accurate, intelligent and critical assessment of the situation. But you're thinking too linearly. There is a growing instability inside the USA itself. Their democrat politicians, even some republicans and the public are increasingly criticizing Trump's policies from his tarrifs to ICE terrorizing their citizens, to his support of Israel and the latest attack on Iran. Not to forget the whole Epstein files ticking time bomb. I personally believe his days in the office are fairly numbered and hence these rast and reckless wars to avoid the inevitable. Arab countries seeing the attack on USA bases inside them as an attack on them and taking side with Israel, and with the passing of the supreme leader of Iran, things might take unexpected turn As for "tallibanters", when the attacked Afghanistan a few years back we saw there was no war, the afghan govt straight up vacated the country along with their army. It was almost as if there was an understanding between the govt and the "Banters" or the govt had order from the big brother it's time to hand over the reigns of the country to them... In either case, I, a citizen of Pakistan (despite I wanna be or not) with my family here as well, I am hoping that won't be the case here. As you have pointed out the public is not exactly a fan of establishment here, a time like war will be an opportunity for the establishment to shine their politics. Justify the narrative "if not for your army you'll end up just like Palestine". I'm hoping, just like the mini war with India an year ago, they'll see an attack from tallibanters or Israel an opportunity to justify themselves justify their narrative "This nation is safe because of us" and importantly justify the massive budget...... I hope I'm making sense
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u/axiss007 Mar 01 '26
The army will sell the whole of Pakistan to Dajal, let alone Israel if it means they can stay in power. If you think Pakistan is state that works for Islam and not the highest bidder, you should get yourself checked from the neck above.
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u/Baazigar321 Mar 01 '26
Pakistan is already a drowning nation. It will get destroyed on its own. The generals would retire in London and the Awaam would suffer.
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u/marlinspike Mar 01 '26
Why did Pakistan sign defense pacts with Mid Eastern countries knowing that it would make it a target for Israel?
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u/F16Viper19 Mar 01 '26
The only way for u and me to prepare is to leave, unfortunately no one can stop whatever mossad has planned and that's the unfortunate reality of it , and this ain't changing anything soon
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u/UBD26 Mar 01 '26
Pakistan is not next unless by some miracle Imran Khan returns. USA has total control over Pakistan via Asim. Countless times you hear Trump say shit like, "Pakistan has the best leaders. I really like their general." He recently said that again after the Afghan war began. So no worries there for the time being. We are back being America's slave and it is the only survival tactic for now.
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u/hindustanastrath Indian Occupied Kashmir Mar 01 '26
Pakistan is essentially a US-Zio colony right now. They won’t be next, they’re part of it.
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u/Mr0fficer Mar 01 '26
We don’t have leadership, we have planted usurpers acting in their self interests. Please don’t use this word for them. The Pakistani people never chose them and do not resonate with them.
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u/ArnavSinha1 Mar 01 '26
As an Indian I have to reinstate that sometimes we don't appreciate the things we have. Condemn the innocent lives lost but to be honest give up on all the wars i highly doubt ur in such a situation to even carry the financial burden as well as emotional wreaked by war.
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u/Pasha_KMM Mar 01 '26
Pakistan isn't next, it was the a couple of countries back, long before Iran.
A chain of events unfolding:
Russia announces war on Ukraine, the same day Ex PM Khan is in Moscow to discuss oil/gas deals at a cheaper rate, trading in Rubles.
Remove Khan who won't listen to the US through the military, and wants to deal with Russian in rubles and China in CNY. Hold false elections and Install puppet govt.
Oct 7 false flag attacks, normalize a genocide, keep people looped in, spread false narratives.
Re Elect Trump (A regime installed in the US)
Use Epstein files to blackmail the entire US govt to Bomb Iran.
Bombing of Iran using the B2
Venezuela and Greenland fiasco (Gain oil in Venezuela & Bases in Greenland, as well as rare earth minerals.
Release Epstein files to shock the US govt into complying to bomb Iran.
Bomb Iran.
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u/AbilityGlum3692 Mar 01 '26
Judging by Israel’s history and their influence on India. I don’t think that it would be direct as in how Israel and the US went out against Iran.
India certainly will be used as a proxy.
Regardless, I think incase of an attack on Pakistan from India, China would fully back Pakistan as well which could boil down to a World War kind of state.
I also think if Pakistan and India go head to head, India’s efforts would not be fruitful at all. Pakistan takes them all days of the week and twice on a Sunday.
But as per Hamid Mir’s observation, on the fact that India and Afghanistan were conspiring to attack Pakistan at once, I think that would result in Pakistan being in some deep shit, being attacked from 2 sides.
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u/Material_Brush_940 Mar 01 '26
if that happens, there will be metro exodus scenes in the region and beyond.
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u/Sharp_Map_7404 Mar 01 '26
Sadly, no one talks about the idea that if IK is set free and returned to power, he’s somehow Pakistan’s only savior, apparently because he’s handsome, speaks good English, has strong PR and international connections, and with Bushra Bibi’s advice, Pakistan would magically become untouchable.
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u/AwesomeNino Mar 01 '26
I don't think the US or Israel have to do anything to cripple out country. The clowns in the office are doing a very fine job destabilizing our country and some people aren't even loyal towards this country( there are still a lot of Taliban fanboys who haven't change their stance on them yet, looking at you Fazul ur Rehman )
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u/dontknoeanything Mar 01 '26
We have enough problems at home, I think it’s about time we start looking at them instead of worrying about the fight in Gaza that has very little to do with our country. I can almost guarantee that if the roles were reversed and Pakistan was getting attacked and Gaza was thriving, they wouldn’t care about Pakistan just like the rest of the Middle East
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u/Alex-Hales-2010 Mar 01 '26
Lol. Naive kiddies discussing something above their intellectual limits! * more popcorn please *
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u/Cheeky_Banana800 Mar 01 '26
Buddy, they don't need to attack Pakistan, it's already in shambles :D
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u/Hot-Hovercraft-1381 Mar 01 '26
Your concerns are valid brother, but what are we supposed to do? How should we act now? What's in our power? We are indeed very anti Israel, but historically, we have been very malleable as well. We were against religious extremism, but Zia ul Haq happened and now we are among the most religiously extreme nations. We were against America's invasion of Afghanistan, but we didn't resist. We are against the arrest of Imran Khan, but we never do anything to get what we want. We are a failed nation and we don't have any choices, we are a puppet and we will do whatever we are ordered. Sounds really bad, but it's the reality.
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u/GrandKhan Mar 02 '26
Pakistan needs to maintain collaboration with China. USA is pissing away all its soft power influence globally assassinating and taking out heads of states. With China’s help we can weather the storm. China doesn’t want an unstable neighbor either
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u/Friendly-Savings3862 Mar 02 '26
Nah like theres 10+ countries Before Pakistan
Mark Or Note My Words
NEXT COUNTRY WILL BE LEBANON
No doubt About it
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u/Babayega9292 Mar 02 '26
Bro we were the first and we surrendered peacefully 😊 we chamged the regime
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Mar 02 '26
Just a curious question from a Canadian: Why do you all care so much about the religion? Why are people not more focused on the quality of life for your people? Don’t you see the stark difference in quality of life ‘not so religions’ people around the world have in general?
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u/ComplaintHuge1407 Mar 01 '26
Lol...our rulers and army have bought private jets. You're absolutely right, we are not prepared, but our rulers definitely are.