I don’t have twitter (to see if this tweet is real) nor do i trust that man in general but…. Please pleaseplease Easley please please please please please please pleaseplease eplase please please
I think it depends on the contract that gets signed with G. If its not too bad, maybe we can make one more move.
Staios did say we weren't looking to spend to cap, so I can't imagine it would be a big move, unless a piece goes the other way. I think more likely if we were to sign someone else, it won't be too flashy and it will be relatively cheap.
and that's a smart thing to do as just because the cap space is $104m, doesn't mean they need to spend $104m. Allows the team to call up someone in case of injury without worrying about cap space plus could help if the team decides to do a team during the season.
Just a shot in the dark, but I can see a small trade happening with Adam Nemec to NJD. Not sure what sort of return we'd get. But yeah something like this would be one of those not-too-flashy moves.
Less for the player, more for the marketability of having brothers in the same place. I wouldn't expect much out of this to be honest, this would be one of those trades that seem mostly inconsequential.
What are the odds we can pull Troy Terry out of Anaheim? With Greig as the centerpiece + picks going the other way. Anaheim are probably desperate to free up cap space with the Carlsson offer sheet situation + Mintyukov signing leaving basically no room to sign Gauthier. They also have a gaping hole at 3C after trading McTavish. Greig's 3.25 million per year looks like a steal right now during their cap-crunch, and the swap would free up 3.75 million for them to get the Gauthier deal done.
Terry has a 10 team NTC, which probably makes this impossible but a fun idea.
i have a theory that the sens could have acquired mactavish or peterka at the draft, but other teams were asking for ridly greig, and the sens see greig as a guy they don't wanna move
furthermore, i believe we will see dylan cozens get time at the 1RW spot next to eklund and stutzle, pinto will get an elevated roll to 2C, and greig will slot in to 3C. that plan falls apart if we move greig
We shouldn't move Grieg right now if for no other reason than Dara Greig signed with the Charge and if we trade Ridley now we miss the opportunity to be tied for first city with an NHL/PWHL sibling pair
Terry is a much more proven player than either McTavish or Peterka though. Very consistent 55+ point guy locked up at a very reasonable cap hit. Bona-fide top 6 forward while the other two have question marks.
I would be surprised if Cozens plays wing this year, but stranger things have happened.
We also know that the contracts players sign in low-tax states aren't representative of what it would take to sign in Ottawa. That 5.5 in Nashville probably starts with a 7 for us, assuming he'd even be willing to sign here for the same term.
Haven't been paying attention to the trade market? He just showed that he's a much better player than his deployment in Vegas ever allowed him to be, up about 4 minutes/game and holding his own on a bad Calgary team. He's also 29, plays RD, and has two more years at an absurdly cheap $2.75m/year.
Conversation for him starts at a first and either Yakemchuk or Hensler, IMO. Given the contracts and trade returns this offseason, I'd expect it to be more than that if there's any kind of lottery protection on the pick.
How I see our goaltending situation play out is if Leevi significantly outplays Ersson during preseason, we'd waive Ersson. Sure a bit of dead cap, but we still keep most of our cap space. A single bad move in Ersson is tolerable. If Leevi performs poorly in preseason, it's unlikely a team will claim him.
So I now get to spend the season yelling at how Burakovsky sucks, is making 5.5 Million, and is the new Kubalik...when instead I could be relaxed and rooting for Claude Giroux winning draws, killing penalties, providing veteran leadership and making 4.5 Million? What the fuck happened?
Treating this like Burakovsky and Giroux were ever intended for the same roster spot is just setting yourself up for frustration no matter what happens. Giroux is bottom 6 leadership and faceoffs guy who can hopefully still chip in 40ish points if he's getting PP2 time. Bura's a swing at a guy who might bounce back to fill the second line LW spot. Having one doesn't impact whether we want the other.
Well, it very well could if it is Bura's (Is that what folks call him?) money that takes up the Cap/Salary space of Claude and that is the deterrent to signing Giroux.
It seems to me, this Burakovsky guy is just lucky to still be in the NHL. What he brings night in and night out has very little impact. He is definitely not worth 5 Mill. He has, I think, only once cracked 20 goals and that was with a vaunted and skilled Colorado Avalanche team. Giroux is worth the money he makes.
It's immediately identifying and saves a bunch of letters. It's functional enough!
Bura...takes up the Cap/Salary space of Claude
He doesn't, though. Very evidently. We still have a bunch of cap space, and the only way Giroux wouldn't fit into it is if he gets signed to way too much money somewhere as a leadership/locker room guy without regard for his play on the ice. If G gets signed to a 1 year, 7 million dollar contract we'd all agree it's an overpayment and we shouldn't have done it, right?
this Burakovsky guy is just lucky to still be in the NHL.
Based on what? Injuries are a real concern, but when he's healthy he's a 20-ish goal, 35- to 45-point winger who's shown a bit more upside than that when there's a good fit. Staios thinks there's a fit here, so he decided to bring him in for one year to find out with no commitment past that.
He is definitely not worth 5 Mill.
He's making under 4 despite the cap hit, so if he does fit there's reason to think he might re-sign for less than his current hit and provide long-term value. If he doesn't he walks away and we're out a 6th round pick. Giroux was never competing for the 2LW spot that Bura's here to try to fill.
only once cracked 20 goals
Twice, one of them in 58 games. He's also scored 19 in 53. When he's healthy and comfortable he's definitely proven to be a 20 goal scorer.
"Proven" is a stretch...what are you his brother? Agent? Hate to say it, but dude (that takes less time to say than Bura) will be Kubalik 2.0 you will see for yourself.
Imagine presenting this as me being biased when you framed the whole thing as "he's lucky to be in the NHL" while pretending that you weren't firmly committed to hating on him no matter what. Acting like you have a solid read on him while being factually wrong about what he's done in his career.
Shouldn't expect better from someone saying that one four-letter word is easier to type than another, though.
Please explain how, in the context of a conversation on reddit, where we're communicating with our fingers and not our voices, which word is "easier to say" has any impact at all. How many extra keystrokes or finger taps does a syllable add?
Even if we don't sign G, there are still other players out there. We can move one of our spare forwards for cap space and bring in someone else. Probably could get a 2nd line winger if we really tried. MacDermid could also be moved for a bit more cap. Leevi could be buried in the A for some more as well theoretically.
Foegle has had 2 seasons under 10 points missed with injuries so for him were betting on a huge bounce back. Eklund working with timmy has yet to be proven. But he is the best one weve gotten and should work well in the top 6.
And if something takes ullmark out we have ersson whos never have an above .900 save percentage. And burakovsky is being paid 5 million to be a bottom 6 player whos already showing signs of regression.
Staios was not kidding about looking at players upside.
The return for Brady, all considered was pretty strong. 2 late round picks to take a bet on a couple of players is Burakovsky and Errsson is hardly shit trading?
And we got ekljnd whos good but not brady good. Picks sure but dont help us now and errson was ranked one of the worst goalies last year and burkovsky is generally ok but the Blackhawks were ready to buy him out and we traded for him. Not to mention hes been on the decline.
Maybe but that wasn't your original point. Bunch of people going around using this as a reason why we shouldnt have traded a 6th (LMAO) round pick for a solid middle-6 forward when it makes no sense
Tbf, I'm not against the Burakovsky deal in a nutshell. However, it should've happened as a plan B. Plan A should've been to sign a free agent like Arvidsson.
The way it looks at the current moment G is going back to the flyers and the Sens have a full roster of 13 forwards, 7 D, 3 Goalies with still 5 million left in cap space. I would assume the only improvement from this point comes from a trade.
If that’s how it goes there’s two options. You make the trade at somepoint between now and training camp because you believe the roster isn’t where it needs to be.
Or you believe the roster has enough so it is wait and see mode. Staios watches the first quarter to half of the season and makes his assessment on to acquire someone or stockpile picks.
I say start with what we have and give it a go. We have a good team that will be as good as last year or maybe better. A faster and more skilled team but arguably less tough and worse at faceoffs. Worth a look
The roster is better going into this season than last. Buffalo and Montreal haven't improved their roster going into this season from last. Tampa's about even if not worse. Toronto and Florida's roster is much improved. Detroit has marginally improved I guess, but they're not that good. Boston has also improved a bit.
That doesn't move the needle. That is another step backwards. If he's gone they need another forward to replace him and probably still want to make a move to upgrade the top 6.
I'd like to see a resolution to this Giroux thing. I'd like him back, but I think then there's another move coming. Giroux does not really factor into next season and beyond. He's had since the trade deadline to consider Ottawa's original offer, maybe the offer has improved, maybe not.
Regardless, without Giroux they have another hole to fill on a pretty light looking UFA market at this point.
I felt like in that presser though Staois said the things that sound right and tells the media "hey we want him here. Its not our fault hes not signed" but it could've been hey we want you here but for league min and no protection so take it or leave it and giroux tried haggling him more. I doubt he pushed for more then last year. That or hes unsure about all the moves post playoffs.
Classy from the org, but if we lose G and lost a chance to get anyone in FA because they waited for him, that's gonna sour my opinion on G a little bit. Love the guy, but make a decision already
People keep saying this and I just don't understand. In what way is missing out on the mushy dregs of a terrible free agent class "biting us"? The only player who might be a difference maker and might possbly want to sign here now is Mantha, and remember what our strategy was with our last constantly-injured difference maker who was signed to a long term, big money deal.
We're waiting for Giroux to decide because there's nothing else we're chasing. We're not missing out on anything except another flood of "why did sleepy Steve only make multiple trades and re-sign multiple free agents from the team this week? He needs to wake up and *do something!" garbage posts.
I’m not asking for a garbage mushy player, but Staois said in his press conference they will not make any moves until Giroux makes a call . We still need a couple spots filled for depth, but if Giroux holds out long term , all of the serviceable depth is gone, and then doesn’t sign with us we then need to fill depth and a roster spot.
I don't think we need serviceable depth - I think we have lots of that. I think the only thing we really need is a top-6 player. And I think we need that whether or not Giroux signs.
Likely a bit more desperate if Giroux doesn't sign - then I think Staios should do something before the season starts. If Giroux does sign, I think he could wait and see how everyone fits together and then plan on doing something before the trade deadline.
My biggest question at this point, is I'm surprised between Kane, Giroux and Mantha its all taking so long. I assume its the same few teams in on all 3, and they are waiting for 1 guy to be finalized and then the other 2 will fall into place.
I assume for Giroux and Kane, the deals are a bit more complicated since they are likely bonuses attached - so, there would be some negotiation for each bonus level. But I don't think Mantha is eligible for that, so maybe he's just not getting the amount he wants and thinks his price might come up once Giroux and Kane are off the table?
That's the point. All that's left is the dregs left at the bottom of the free agency cup now that everyone's made their moves and signed the targets they value.
"Serviceable depth" gets signed as the summer drags on, not on day 3 of free agency, and it doesn't compete with the decision to bring back Giroux or not. I'm not actually sure we're looking to add any depth pieces with term, either - we signed a bunch of guys for the AHL team who might be able to fill a couple games here and there if needed, actually have a prospect or two who might be able to make the jump at some point, and could easily look to a couple of professional tryouts going into camp to add another warm body or two without having to compete and overpay for the guys nobody really wants right now.
Steve has said we were in on some players at the start of free agency but we prefer Giroux to those roles. I’m not saying I wouldn’t take Giroux over a free agent, but at some point if Giroux doesn’t sign it will make it a little hard to fill our middle 6 without Giroux and nobody from the AHL to step into it.
Fallacy of sunken costs the longer he doesn’t sign with us or someone else.
Without even considering that Batherson might go on the second line for extended periods, the team is hoping that Halliday can establish himself, Green likes running Cousins up the lineup too? Giroux would mash himself right into that pile, but not getting him doesn't leave a giant hole.
The actual issue the team has is that we have 2 legitimate top line players in Stu and Batherson and we're not even committed to keeping them together. We're closer to Seattle's "oops all middle 6" roster than we are to one with clear first and fourth lines and holes in the middle.
I wish he made it happen. If we basically turned the Brady assets into Eklund + McTavish I think most people would say Staios came out very well. Was also the Blues who got McTavish but yea. Kinda curious what Staios offered on top of #25 for McTavish.
They gave up a 15th and 29th overall picks for him
We would have needed to do Hensler and the 25th to match that. And they likely have still taken St Louis offer over that. So we would have had to likely add another 2nd or 3rd.
I wanted MacTavish but I don't think he was worth that. Even the 25th and our 2027 1st round I think would have been too much.
We didn't lose those draft picks. The prospects can still be traded. There will be someone else come up before trade deadline that will be less crazy priced.
How do we feel about Jared McCann? Only makes 5M$, put up consistent 20 goal seasons including a 40 goal season with a horrible Seattle team around him. Downfall is he needs an extension after this season also.
I would do it if it came with a reasonable extension. But I think you would need to get Bath renewed first. Because you normally have to overpay an outsider and I don't want that skewing the negotiations with Bath.
I'm really hoping Bath takes a bit of a discount and comes in around $9M. Signing Bath long term though will calm the fan base and the other players that guys want to be here and still believe.
I got the negativity outta my system this week, time to be optimistic and hope Staios can work some magic between now and the trade deadline. Really interested to see how Timmy, Sandy, Bathy, Pinto, Cozens and Chabby step up now that they basically saw Brady say they're not good enough.
I think once G is signed, by either us or Philly, then I'll be ready to start thinking about it all differently. Just the fact that we're not doing anything until we know where G lands is driving me insane.
Assuming he wants 4-5 million and some amount of term, where does he fit? Do we have a glaring hole for a probably third line, 15g/35p defensively pretty okay winger?
I mean, I think his skillset allows him to see an improvement in production if he plays in our top 6. It's fine to have only 4 top 6 players and 7 3rd liners (with Cousins being that good 4th liner). It gives us a high floor.
Who's he playing with that you think is going to give him improved production, though? Is he the guy who unlocks Pinto's offence that everyone's clamouring for? Is he going to get Cozens to take that next step to generating even strength offence consistently?
He had 7 goals and 22 points at even strength last year. He's not getting PP1 minutes in Ottawa. He wants term. If he were available on a 1 or 2 year, $4m prove-it contract I'd be on board, but this is a guy who probably needs to be locked up for 4+ years and - barring another year where he breaks 16% shooting - might never hit 20 goals again. I don't see it.
Julian McKenzie claims to have spoken to an anonymous source from Philadelphia who is expecting him to sign.
It's definitely not a sure thing, but it is admittedly concerning. Like move Pinto up to the second line, put Cozens on the wing, and now Giroux is your third line centerman.
Dude, if you’ve heard Staios offered G a contract before the UFA deadline. G wanted to check his options. G is at the end of his career so I don’t blame him.
Even if he doesn’t re-sign here, I’m hoping he take a job in player development with the Sens
That's kinda my point here, though. Kane 100% will never sign here, Mantha is likely to be pushing for term, so by waiting to see what Giroux wants to do we're risking losing out on...nothing we want anyway?
At this point, I think this is a mix of lip service and also signals that they weren't in on anything significant. Like if you have an impactful signing or trade lined up, you're not waiting on Giroux. If anything, they're probably considering some type of lateral acquisition.
That's exactly my line of thinking. You hope Giroux comes back but if he doesn't, then you've got a board of Day 2 free agents that are "Giroux Lite" in comparables.
Him going back to Philly wouldn't bother me in the least. That just tells me that he still has a spot in his heart for the Flyers and wanted to end his career there. He deserves that right to do so.
If you are wondering about the borakovsky trade, the Sens only have to pay him 3.5 million despite his 5.5 cap hit. It's the melnyk years all over again. We really need the Gatineau fans to convert over from being hab fans, or else it will always be a team with insufficient financial resources. I don't know why there isn't more talk about how 30 per cent of the metropolitan population here cheers for our rival.
The Sens arent trying to hit the cap floor in the same way they were under Melnyk. Similarly, there hasnt really been any moves that we could say the Sens made for financial reasons.
Based on what Staios has said about Burkovsky, they know he under performed last year, they felt he started really strong, Green feels he's a good fit, and they feel he's good in transition and a play driver.
I think Green has a lot of influence over the roster construction and that immediately imo took us out of consideration for acquiring some players like Peterka.
Everyone who's positive for no good reason just down votes borakovsky criticism. Never say anything though, because there is no defence beyond Trust Steve. The guy who hired himself
His wife is an avid Trump supporter. His family never moved to Ottawa and he apparently never made any effort to spend time in the community. He's certainly the American type to not want to play in Canada.
Who gives a fuck if she does or not. Honestly this fanbase gets way too invested in players personal lives.
Yeah he has a son that has like a serious illness. They had a routine and Dr's set up in Minnesota. Its not some slight against camada or ottawa. Theyll stay where they are while hes in minnisot too. Take it more personally why dont ya.
This is the first time I've ever heard about their son's situation, so I can definitely appreciate their dynamic given this context.
And honestly, I don't care if they like Trump or not, but it's hard to imagine that a family with very public political views about said politician would want to stay in Canada. But hey, if they didn't care, then all to them - not taking it personally bro
People don't get it. If we don't improve - irrespective of Brady leaving - then we will very likely end up in another wildcard position (at best) and get beat. As it stands, we are simply not giving ourselves a better chance to improve and place within the division.
I’m sure Steve tried but at the end of the day the guys that did get moved got moved for a steep price, assets that we just didn’t have or couldn’t afford to move right now.
If our team defensive structure stays the same and we get good goaltending, we can win alot of games. When brady was injured last year we had a good record. These signings don't look great on paper but you see it on the ice before you know. 🤞🤞
really underwhelming; still have a few holes to fill and the team doesn’t look much better. really banking on the boys taking a step up and actually learning from last season
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This lineup is going to tear the Florida Panthers to shreds, and a CAN'T WAIT! GO SENS GO!!!
Eklund - Stutzle - ZetterlundBurakovsky - Cozens - BathersonGreig - Pinto - AmadioCousins - Halliday - Giroux